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F355 - F1 or Manual?

Discussion in '348/355' started by A.J, Dec 18, 2007.

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  1. A.J

    A.J Karting

    Dec 14, 2007
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    Hi all,
    I'm currently looking to buy my first F car (355) & although I'm swaying towards getting an F1 I've heard a few people slating the gear change on them.

    So what I'm looking for are opinions on whether you prefer the F1 paddle type gears or a manual & why.

    Your input will be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance :)

    A.J
     
  2. RossoCorsaItaly

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    I personally prefer the F1.

    Why? It's more fun to drive in my opinion.

    Everyone is going to give you a different answer, some like 6spd and some like F1. Drive both and buy what YOU like.
     
  3. CavalloRosso

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    +1.
    People are often very opinionated on this forum. However, this is one instance where YOU should make the choice. They are both great!
     
  4. A.J

    A.J Karting

    Dec 14, 2007
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    Thanks for the input so far guys :)

    I'll be making my own decision but I wanted to hear opinions from people on here as you've obviously had time to reflect on your F cars & as I haven't got mine yet I don't know which one will be easier to live with.
     
  5. rcm360

    rcm360 Formula Junior

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    There are pros and cons either way, so drive both and do what feels best. Personally, I prefer the 6spd. and if it is your first F-car there is something very nostalgic about a gated shifter. Just buy a well maintained car and pay for quality. Enjoy your search
     
  6. 285ferrari

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    Great advice!!!
     
  7. UConn Husky

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    There's plenty of discussion on this, search this forum. Personally I'm a huge F1 fan, but both options have their merits.

    The only thing I'll say for now is don't let some scary F1 maintenance costs scare you away. There's a few horror stories around, but those are rare and IF something does go wrong there's many lower cost fixes that have been posted in here. And you must watch the youtube video explaining how it works (link has been posted, you'll find it in one of those threads).

    Good luck!
     
  8. Agent_355

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    May 13, 2007
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    Absolutely, I did not like the F1 transmission the first few time I drove with one. The problem was I did not spend much time with them as they were not my cars, I was searching at the time. In the end I ended up buying one, since the wife liked the "AUTO" button , and I have changed my tune. I actually prefer the F1 now. My only recommendation based on my own experience is it is not a transmission that loves traffic and stop and go driving. If you are planning to use the car much in the city I might sway towards the 6-Spd so you have control over clutch slippage. Every 355 F1 I have been in seems to slip the clutch more than necessary in stop and go. Just my $0.02.
     
  9. StanT

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    I just got a '98 F1 GTS, after driving a Mondial t 5-speed for several years.

    F1 Pros: Easier, faster shifts, espcially downshifts.
    "Cool" factor.
    My wife can drive it in "Auto" mode
    "Hill holder" ability

    F1 Cons: Somewhat less authentic/involved.
    Can't feather the clutch and rev the engine for show.

    F1 Not sure: Getting to see/having to look at/ Gear indicator between speedo and tach

    Good advice above-get what YOU like better.
     
  10. UConn Husky

    UConn Husky F1 Rookie

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    Excellent tip, the F1 is not a stop and go car. ONCE I was sitting in stop and go on the highway going down to the dealer and it was just painful. Works just fine but I couldn't help but worry that I was taking hundreds of miles off the clutch life...
     
  11. billyfitness

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    I have SMG on my M3 so that satisfies the convenience and accuracy factor on the track.
    IMO I would not own a Ferrari with F1. I just feel more involved with the car and driving experience when shifting.
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  12. 355

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    Exactly......Want to feel the real drivablility of a car then slice through the gears. Also many stories heard about F1 clutches lasting only 15k or so. Not for me.
     
  13. Theo

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    When I was in the market for 355s a few years ago, I drove a few 6 speeds. Then I drove a F1 and decided an F1 was the only way to go. Maybe its because I follow F1 racing, or maybe its because I can drive harder/faster/safer with the F1, but in the end I just love it. And that's what counts.

    You have to drive both kinds and if you are like most of us, you will know right away which one is for you.

    Theo
     
  14. SSNISTR

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    Really? TOTAL opposite if you ask me. IMO, get the manual. Plus the gate looks cool!
     
  15. coledoggy

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    i've never had a f1 in a 355, i did in the 360 and hated it. so i traded the car for a stradale, now thats fun. no way does the 355 shift that fast, so i would never even entertain a f1 for a 355. plus the gated shifter in the 355, which i have, is so much more fun than even a 360 base f1. not to mention if that joker breaks, ouch.
     
  16. Bobert

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    I drove both...bought 6-speed. When the seal blew at 25K miles...I put in a new clutch/pressure plate...really did not need to as they had lots of life (probably 40k miles or more). The six speed is more reliable in the 355, clutch lasts longer, cheaper to repair and the click of the gear lever is

    PRICELESS!
     
  17. 4REphotographer

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    In all seriousness how hard is it to drive a manual car? Only driven 3 cars and all them and every car I'm around is an auto. Thinking about it in my head it doesn't seem to be all that easy but that all could change after I learn,
     
  18. speedy_sam

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    It is pretty easy to learn the basics of driving a manual transmission car - it may take you a few days/weeks to get comfortable with handling the clutch .... but ... it takes a long time to get smooth. I have driven manual cars for about 11 years and feel that I can still improve.
     
  19. speedy_sam

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    Do you enjoy shifting your gears? If yes ... then the choice is clear - manual. Or are you the kind who has driven manual cars all their life and wants a change - go F1. Either way you get a fine Ferrari.

    The F1 will make a lot of sense on the track with less potential for synchro/clutch abuse. You can focus more on the driving line and less on the shifting. But then you dont get the pleasure of executing a perfect shift. The manual makes more sense on street driving - less clutch abuse and the ability to skip gears while shifting.

    I would chose a manual Ferrari over a F1 Ferrari whereever I have a choice - just because I like to shift gears. But I also want to buy a CS which is F1 only.
     
  20. James-NZ

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    I have owned both (in 355 form), first up I brought an F1 car, I like trick stuff, and the F1 system is certainly trick, there is a coolness about flipping paddles, its a good system to live with and makes driving fast on the track or twisty roads a real pleasure. It is however a system that drives hard all the time, what I mean is when you shift its like slamming a manual through the gears every time, its fast and fun, but it must be hard on the car over a long time, compared to a stick shift where you can just coast through the gears if your not in a rush.

    I love my stick shift, there is something about having a clutch pedal and gear stick, the shifter has a look about it also.

    The advice you have been given here is solid, drive them both, they are different but they are both great, if your like me you will love them both on there own merit and weather the car has one or the other will not be a deal breaker.
     
  21. gothspeed

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    Great sumation :)!!
     
  22. James-NZ

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    Thanks Goth.

    BTW I’m now out of the Nero club and into the Spider club, couldn't have both unfortunately.
     
  23. Gershwin

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    mitigate your risks in servicing these beauties, I say - go 6!
     
  24. Oengus

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    I prefer the stick
    But ultimately its your choice

    Drive and decide
     
  25. Bullfighter

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    What he said.
     

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