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Discussion in '360/430' started by amirgt2, Nov 28, 2007.

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  1. Hiper

    Hiper Formula Junior

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    Large is the best one to order. The difference isn't really that big between the 3 sizes, but its better for resale if you go with the large. I tried the large, and although I was planning on getting a medium, Large didnt feel bad at all.
     
  2. Back Marker

    Back Marker Formula Junior

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    Any official US pricing, yet ?
     
  3. gianster

    gianster Karting

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    Base price is $262,306 USD.
     
  4. jeff

    jeff Formula 3

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    Gianni,
    Did a Ferrari dealer give you this price? I was not aware that any dealer had pricing.
     
  5. ylshih

    ylshih Shogun Assassin
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    I've heard a number at $260K recently for the US cars, so $262K sounds right. With mandatory "options" and owner-selected options (stripe, splitter, CF, etc), this could easily be a $300K+ MSRP car.
     
  6. G-force

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    So lets see base 262k options another 25k 100k supposed premium total $387,000.

    By all accounts a fantastic car but for 240k a person can get a Lamborghini Superlegerra

    send to Heffner have twin turbos installed have 1000 HP for another 55k making a total of 295,000.

    then he would 92,000 in his pocket and a car performance wise untouchable. Oh and you can
    buy the car off the showroom floor wait 2 months and is done . No dealer BS,, no list.... Yea I know, iIT'S NOT A FERRARI

    ergo you can't compare?????
     
  7. WCH

    WCH F1 Veteran
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    "Oh and you can buy the car off the showroom floor wait 2 months and is done . No dealer BS,, no list.... Yea I know, iIT'S NOT A FERRARI"


    This is such a pointless post. I'd rather have a Daytona than a Superleggera. I'd rather have Heffner's Ford GT than a Superleggera. I'd rather have my 1969 Datsun 2000 than a Superleggera. A Heffner tarted up Superleggera is faster than the Daytona, 250 and Datsun, but ... so what? It's not that "it's not a Ferrari;" it's that I don't want a Superleggera. I'll bet most of us who actually are getting Scuderias aren't paying $100k over and aren't confronting any "dealer BS."

    Lamborghini Washington had a stunning black on black Superleggera that would make an amazing track day car. Beautiful. I'm just buying something else.
     
  8. G-force

    G-force F1 Rookie

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    I'm sure you'll enjoy the 430S a tremendous car by all accounts.
     
  9. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Wayne

    A TT G is not legal in the US so you're comparing apples and potatoes.

    Secondly no one can buy a Scuderia in the US. You have to lease it and during the lease period Ferrari has the first right of resale at a price not to exceed msrp.

    Best
     
  10. WCH

    WCH F1 Veteran
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    "no one can buy a Scuderia in the US. You have to lease it and during the lease period Ferrari has the first right of resale at a price not to exceed msrp. "

    Now, THAT's BS, but not DEALER BS. Very different. ;)
     
  11. hamdog

    hamdog Formula Junior

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    Could someone explain to me what is going on in the exotic and classic car market? This is making the real estate market of 2001-2005 look weak.
     
  12. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Before you state that I'm posting BS I suggest you exercise more care. I believe, based on a very credible source, that you cannot buy a 430S in the US without granting Ferrari a ROFR at a price not to exceed msrp. during the first year from point of first sale. You don't own it free and clear. If I didn't believe that the source that told me this was credible I wouldn't have posted.

    IMO it's a good thing that Ferrari is trying to keep flippers at bay in the US.
     
  13. Prancing 12

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    I don't believe WCH was calling "BS" on your post, just that the whole situation is BS. Do you honestly think this is really an attempt to keep the car with the real enthusiasts and away from flippers, or simply a way to ensure that the flipped profit stays with Ferrari and their dealers (not sure if FNA gets a "cut" for their restrictive actions...)?

    Considering the people you know Jim, do you have any indication that this will become "par for the course" with new Ferraris? Surely the next V8 Spider will have an equally great ($100k +) demand when released... Maybe all new Ferraris become a lease-only?
     
  14. WCH

    WCH F1 Veteran
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    Prancing 12 is right! I see that my original post was unclear, and I apologize both here and by PM to Napolis. I meant to call the leasing policy BS, not your post. I have purchased a number of new Ferraris, never signed any sort of repurchase or similar agreement, and always have resold my cars to my dealer though I could have flipped them for a profit. Given the history of my purchases, I think they should take me at my word. Sounds silly, perhaps.

    I have yet to decide whether I'm willing to sign a lease; if not, someone else in the long line of prospective buyers will get my car.
     
  15. F430abio

    F430abio Karting

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    there was a scud in rome and it was priced at 208K Euros, it seem'd like a reasonable price.....
     
  16. ringmeister

    ringmeister Formula Junior

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    What about the buy and hold guys. They get screwed into the whole lease deal when they never had any desire to flip. So let me get this right, you lease it for a year making 12 months principal and interest and then at the end of the year the buyout is original MSRP? Thats not about stopping flippers, that's about making big money.
     
  17. FJerry

    FJerry Formula Junior

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    maybe they will give you a break on the luggage?! :p (btw- Im with you on the buy and hold guys but Im also with F with trying to limit the flippers)

    best regards,
    Jerry
     
  18. scycle2020

    scycle2020 F1 Rookie

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    Last time I looked , we live in a capitalistic economic system...buy low and sell high is one way to make money, so whats wrong with buying and car at one price and then selling it when someone offers you more money for it????
     
  19. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Hi

    Firstly sorry for misunderstanding Will.

    Secondly you own the car after paying the lease. The ROFR prevents flipping the car during the lease period. I also believe that you can make a large down payment. The purpose as I understand it is to prevent over market payments flowing to flippers. While I think it's a bit sad to have to have to do this and agree that some will just say no, as other's have pointed out it's a free market and personally I'd rather see the over market money flowing back to Ferrari by raising msrp. than into the pockets of flippers. I do think as long as there is more demand than product this system will be used. I also think msrp. will rise.

    Complex issues.

    Best
     
  20. Stephen1

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    70 k euros in Italy... through friends))))
     
  21. Back Marker

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    I thought another option was to buy the car outright, but allow the dealership to be listed as lienholder for at least one year.
     
  22. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I'm not sure how one can hold a lien on something without a financial interest but if the right to "buy" the car is consideration for the ROFR that might work. Either way the point is no one can own a new 430S in the US with Full and Clear Title for one year from date of first sale as I understand it and therefore can't flip it for a premium to a third party as Ferrari retains the right to buy it back during that period for a max of msrp.
     
  23. brokenarrow

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    OMG> I'll watch the blood bath from the sidelines. There is so much demand, so little supply, and money flying all over the place. Wow! Capitalism at its best.
     
  24. Hiper

    Hiper Formula Junior

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    My Scud came out to $273,000....no lien, no lease, straight out ownership and i can flip it the same day! But....I'm not in the US :p And by the way, my car is pretty much fully loaded except for the rear diffuser and a couple of other useless options that are ridiculously expensive.
     
  25. supraman55

    supraman55 Formula Junior

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    Scuderia dealer list-price in Germnay is EUR 173.000,00 netto. My car was relatively hard optioned and is aproximatly EUR 200.000,00 netto. Will attach my car's option list and price with delivery pics in January. Now I am on the holiday trip. Best.
     

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