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Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by Gary48, Jan 7, 2008.

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  1. Gary48

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    #1 Gary48, Jan 7, 2008
    This is the big catch phrase in tribology at the moment, not just clear oil but solid materials and chemical additive make up the mix. Lots of new stuff, Is this the future?
     
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    #2 Gary48, Jan 7, 2008
    To be more exact: Moly, borates, ptfe, ZDDP, DLC, Carbon nano spheres, any takers?
     
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    #3 Gary48, Jan 9, 2008
    O.K. No takers, too technical! No Tribologists in the lot?
     
  4. Steve Magnusson

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    #4 Steve Magnusson, Jan 9, 2008
    Always has been the future -- but the progress is going to be very slow and steady. It's the marketing that's out of control -- just like the phrase "...and its relationship to global warming", if you can work the phrase "nano" or "nanotechnology" into your name/business plan easier to scoop up grant/VC/education $. Will there be interesting and useful things from nanotechnology? Sure, but it's not going to significantly alter life on earth -- it's just going to be another small step into our (uncertain) future.
     
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    #5 Gary48, Jan 9, 2008
    Steve, thanks for venturing forth in what many consider "fringe" discusion, but is it really? Discussion about elements brought together to improve the imposed status quo lubrication. Its as if a higher power has the final say as to what is the final solution to your lubrication needs based on profit motive and geared for the masses. Yes, aggressive marketing today somewhat implies a hollow content based on semi-truths.
    Nano lubrication technology not only implies the use of solid lubrication in solution below 1 micron in size but also chemical reactions to the lubricant and changes to the wear metal itself to initiate additional protection between moving parts.
    Most common today and most on everyones mind is ZDDP and its decreasing amounts in todays oils.
     
  6. Steve Magnusson

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    #6 Steve Magnusson, Jan 9, 2008
    Glad to wade in Gary -- you obviously have some enthusiasm for this topic. And I apologize if my first post seemed a little gruff, but, being here in Boulder, I get plastered with a lot of useless nano-hype (and I'm still waiting for my room-temperature superconductor cold-fusion generator ;))

    Seems to me that the elimination/reduction of ZDDP type compounds is being driven by environmetal reasons rather than performance reasons -- i.e., the problem is "how do we not give up performance within these harder restrictions" rather than "how do we improve the overall performance". I wouldn't be opposed to something new that's really better, but it's got to be reasonable on the cost side -- I'm too cheap to even use the synthetic oils available today.
     
  7. KKRace

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    #7 KKRace, Jan 9, 2008
    I'll take 5 quarts of Buckyballs please....to go.
     

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