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SP blows Allan Lambo's SLR and he tries to cover it up to get warranty done

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  1. BLK85

    BLK85 Karting

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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
     
  2. rakjoe

    rakjoe Formula Junior

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    Tony, I suggest you leave Allan to do the talking about his car and there is one thing I disagree with you here, it's not about Roy's vendetta with Allan but about some SP employees with Alex. They are just playing Roy against Allan and feeding him bs stories to hurt Alex's business while he is not here..

    That's what it all about.

    Roy, the same sources that fed you this stew are the same ones who been leaking your shhiat for years, you playing with double edge sword as those "sources" can turn back against you in a blink of an eye.
     
  3. LAMBOJOE

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  4. rakjoe

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    I know I know, been out of the loop, how are you big D ?
     
  5. darth550

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    Doing great! :)
     
  6. roytoy2003

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    Hi AJ, hope all is well with you and your White Lamborghini Spyder...do you still have it?

    This has nothing to do with SP, I have no issue with them, as a matter of fact they have worked on my cars and I was and have always been happy with their performace. So that part is dead.

    Sure I and Allan do not get along, and we can all point fingers back and forth..

    BUT here are some questions I would like you to answer for me...may help us all understand. After all you where there as you state.

    1) ALLAN purchased and DID install aftermarket Pully system to his car. The system was NOT bought from SP, it was bought from another source and delivered to SP for installation.

    2) After completion he POSTED his HP gains via the DYNO on L-Power.

    3) The Pulley system failed, why I do not know, I am not a mechanic.

    4) If it was JUST a "belt came off" why send the car ALL the way back to South Cali, buy a new belt and re-install, unless you are saying there are no quailfied Mech in Arizona?

    5) The fact the pully failed, the crank remained to turn, with out boost from the SC.

    6) This caused damge to the crank in the interior of the motor.

    7) It will have to be removed to be done correctly., the motor and the crank from the motor.

    8) ONLY AMG can do this work as they WILL not sell parts out of there shop.

    But no matter what, I loose on this, correct or in-correct. And the sad thing is a man who enjoys his car is with out it and for that it is no fun for anyone. I hope the issue gets resolved and he can once again enjoy his car. BUT will this make his car less valuable for re-sale in the future? If we go by his claims ANY car with damage is a POS. I on the other hand believe ALL cars can be repaired to a level that is acceptable to the buyer at the correct reflected price.
     
  7. F355spyder

    F355spyder Rookie

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    I don't need to and I won't use alledgedy cause I know but I don't sit around all day collecting info on Roy. I have better things to do, but when you advertise "perfect cars" and they are put back together with replica parts or there is "light frame damage" and the car shows up with pics of it being demolished and you don't disclose it I tend to take offense as do a lot of other people. Contrary to what you might believe here a lot of shady stuff was uncovered and Allan actually had nothing to do with his banning of his sponsership in LP. He actuallay left it up to the other admins to decide if they wanted to keep him on as a sponser. I'm not going to get into it here cause its not the place nor time but for him to come in here and spew the garage he is spewing without knowing what he's talking about was the chance he was waiting for to try and discredit allan. Allan is no saint, I will admit but he does not de fraud people nor is he in the business of selling cars.
     
  8. roytoy2003

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    A response from another board....I do not know anything about this...maybe it rings a bell with someone here??


    "I know from a thread years ago, I think it was about a Lotus Esprit, that Allan had no problem at all with trying to hide this sort of thing."
     
  9. F355spyder

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    Yes roy its me, I see you have expert knowdlege on the SLR. The crank is what drives the supercharger pulley and belt, not the other way around. The car can run without the supercharger without causeing any damage. What can happen is that the same belt that runs the SC also runs the water pump which can cause the car to overheat. Seeing that he was on his street doing this when it happened the car was obviously shut off and safely brought back to his house until the transport came to get it without and damage being done. The reason its back at SP is cause Alex is a man of his word and his work and he paid for the car to go back to LA and figure out why the belt slipped off.
     
  10. FerrariF50lover

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    What kinds of gains were made with this pulley?
     
  11. F355spyder

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    I'm not here to start an arguement with you. If the guys here like listening to your BS thats fine with me but when I see something that I KNOW is BS and the person in question can't post to tell the truth I'm not going to sit back and just let it go. Then for you to join in as if you know all of whats going on to attack allan just proves to me the person that everyone said you are. I stayed away from all those threads on LP when you were being attacked for all the things that were being talked about and left it alone. At one point I didn't even read them anymore. To me negativity brings more negativity. But now YOU, not anyone else have shown your true colors to me. I do not wish to drag this out cause you have more time than I do to post page long responses of how you are an angel. Trust me I've seen them to the point to where I had to stop, go into my closet and put my boots on, then come back to finish reading casue the crap was so deep.
     
  12. roytoy2003

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    Fair enough, thanks for the educated response with out attacks...
     
  13. Napolis

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    Roy

    You posted the following:

    FACTS:

    1) The SLR was brought to a South California Performance shop for serious modifications, all NON OEM parts and not condoned by Mercedes warranty. Also serious cosmetic mods, wheels, tires etc...

    2) Upon "testing" the car after the MODS..the MOTOR SIEZED!! Kaput! No BS that a belt came off...motor is TOAST!

    3) The car is currently being brought back to stock, all MODS being removed.

    4) A Merecedes Authorized TECH from the East Coast is working KNOWINGLY to cover it up and have it repaired under warranty.

    5) ALLAN is attempting to DEFRAUD Mercedes for non-related warranty work.

    Are you stating that Alan and an Authorized MB Tech have/are willfully comitted/ing criminal fraud? Do you stand behind this public statement?
     
  14. Etcetera

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    Quick! Everyone get on hands and knees and place an ear to the ground!

    Hear that faint, low rumble from off in the distance?

    TQD: "Wait for it..."
     
  15. rakjoe

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    HAHA... wait and watch Roy selling all his sources for a bag of beans on that one. :D




    FWIW..

    Hypothetically speaking..

    Filing a claim with a warranty company can not be possibly a fraud, you simply go and ask "fix that please", either they fix it or not, as simple as that, so what's the fuss is all about ? Warranty claims are denied by thousands every day in every dealer shop across the country.
     
  16. roytoy2003

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    I have NO evidence that IT has been done already, any repair work under warranty at an authorized dealer. I do stand behind the fact that it has been discussed...where it is now I do not know...hence the word "attempting". Maybe, which I do not know, the discussion has been dropped...I surely doubt ANYONE that had this discussion of a possible solution to the damage would now come forward and say, "yes we talked about, but we are not doing it". I can guarantee you all of us at one time or another have wondered if a incident could be covered under warranty, knowing in the back of our mind it really was our fault and not the manufactures...at least if your honest with yourself you will agree to this.

    So SIMPLE NO I am not SAYING anyone at this point has committed FRAUD or Criminal mis-conduct...
     
  17. F355spyder

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    Obviously he was mis informed but if I may here is the exact details..................as allan has just posted on LP.



    Fact remains, I posted that the car had an issie the day it happned Roy

    #2 The issue lay with the fact that Sp was given incorrect torque specs for the crank pulley which is why I asked BiturboAmg to get me the torque specs via MBworld.

    http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=225255

    And lastly Roy Cats has yet again proven that if you somehow try to out the man who tries to defraud the Public, as he is in the business of doing business with the public, where he is has been outed severl times by me while in the process of fraud that he will do whatever he can on a PERSONAL level to try and hurt another person. He has proven this before by obtaining peoples personal criminal history reports and posting them on the internet, attempted to slander people on a personal level in public and private, and now even by trying to post info about my personal vehicle.
     
  18. Artherd

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    IMO, if you can't back those statements up, you have some serious legal exposure.
     
  19. F355spyder

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    So why would you even post it then Roy ??? Can't you just leave it alone. Fact is, there has not been any damage done and there won't be any MB techs working on the car unless Alex feels he needs one. He is out of hte country so the car is sitting idle and has been since before x-mas. if you had all this juicy news why didn't you post it 3 weeks ago when the belt fell off ? Just stop man. From one man to another , my god leave it alone. Save yourself with whatever dignity you have left.
     
  20. roytoy2003

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    I disagree with you on this. If you attempt to get a item repaired under warranty work when YOU know the damage was caused by after market parts and not factory OEM parts...well yes that is fraud...
     
  21. roytoy2003

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    Yes and I am sure if that is the case we can let a Court decide from that point.

    I have no concerns over this issue, but thanks for bringing it to my attention.
     
  22. Napolis

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    Attemping to collect on a warrantee claim while hiding the fact, removing the evidence of, "Non Original" modifications that may have caused the failure is criminal fraud.
     
  23. F355spyder

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    But the bottom line is, ITS NOT. so what does it matter ?? It holds no relevance to this thread any longer.
     
  24. roytoy2003

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    Will of course I dis agree with you that there has been no damage done. I agree with you that ALEX does stand behind his work and product and I am sure it will be resolved in one fashion or another. This is in no way ment as a slam to SP or ALEX. They do fine work and **** happens.

    This is the fact of disclose....as I am all to many times reminded. Wheater the car is ever sold who knows, but sold by private party or by Dealer, the information should be disclosed....after all thats what you keep telling me.

    But you are 100% right, this is a no win situation for anyone..there is NO WAY to prove or disprove this thread other than back and forth he said he said on and on and on...I stand by my comments and I am now done with this thread. There is no more to be said.

    I truly hope and am SURE that SP will have the car back running corrrectly in due time and Allan will be once again happy with a fine machine. Best of luck to all.

    Many years ago I was told by a judge one thing that has stuck with me forever...

    "There are always two truths to a case, me as the third party has the job to find the truth. Almost always the truth lays somehwere in the MIDDLE"
     
  25. Etcetera

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    SP is one of only several McLaren Classiche Certified Certification Facilities in the US.

    Any intelligent owner wishing to retain the value of his or her purchased vehicle are encouraged to have warranty repair work done only through Genuine McLaren Classiche Certified Certification Repair Facilities.

    In this case, the repair certification may look something like this:
    Allan Lambo: Repair: Supercharger belt.

    There is also a Fiero Classiche Program, too.
    In one case, the repair certification may have looked something like this:
    Pantera: Hampster, duct tape.
     

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