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  1. Irishman

    Irishman F1 Rookie

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    Just going by the name in my parts catalog. This part is at the right rear wheel connected to the stabilizer link. Is it something I will be able to find?

    Thanks,
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  2. jimshadow

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    They pop up on Ebay from time to time...Last ones I saw were $150/pr...
    Typically referred to as "drop links"...

    How did you break it?

    JIM
     
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    ooooooh, that hurts just looking at it.
    Good luck, dave
     
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    Wow, how the heck did you do that?
     
  5. greg328

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    I may have a set in the garage, I'll check..

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    I had a complete spare set but I sold them all to Jim. They are available from the dealer parts department but be prepared to pay for it. I'd check with Daniel and usual sources first.

    My car showed up with one broken when I bought it. I think I paid about $400 for the drop link, bushing and grommets (IIRC and that was 4 years ago).
     
  7. jimshadow

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    I have the rears on my car, but the fronts are available with the sway bar. They are for a 308GTS...
    I havent seen any rears on Ebay lately.

    JIM
     
  8. Hans

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    Have a look at the aftermarket anti rollbars. These typically use two bearings on a piece of rod end, at a 90 degree angle.

    MUCH cheaper, readily available and adjustable

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  9. Irishman

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    I did it in my driveway of all places. There is a little culvert on one end. The wheel didn't drop off much, but it was enough. Pretty dumb :(. Should have read the "backing in" post.
     
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    I have a pair I can't use because my extra wide wheels run into them. $200 and they're yours.
     
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    dang! some crazy glue will fix that right up! :) Sorry.... but at least it happened at your house and not 2 or 300 miles away. Give Nick at Forza Ferrari a call he may be able to help.
     
  12. Verell

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    Go to the parts sources stickie & look up the places that part out F*s.

    Hans,
    That type of end is commonly called a 'Heim joint' or sometimes called a 'spherical bearing'.
     
  13. Irishman

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    Any idea what is press fit here? Am I going to have to order a bushing kit, too?
     
  14. Spitfire

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    Not that I can help with a replacement, but I do have a question!

    As part of my suspension rebuild I just started looking at my drop links yesterday. I've got new "Silent Block" bushings for them and would like to know what the trick is for removing the old ones (and inserting the new ones). These silent blocks are different from the other suspension bushings in that they slide in in their own steel collar -- they appear to be a more difficult replacement than the others that I've tackled.

    Thanks as ever for sharing your collective wisdom with me.
     
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    Yes they are a press fit. Any standard shop press should be able to do it. I just happened to have access to a skilled worker and about a 200 ton press at work when I did mine but a much smaller press will do it I'm sure.
     
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    Hi Seamus,

    The easy way is to look for a good set of used drop links.

    I bought some bigger sway bars from a very helpfull chatter, without links. If you look at the aftermarket bars, they use "Heim joints", as Verell mentioned. These are almost bullet proof. The upside is that they are likely cheaper than buying used, (certainly cheaper than new), They will likely never wear out and they will make the sway bar more effective because there is no rubber damping. The downside is that they are not orriginal and may contribute an itsy bitsy bit of harshness to the ride because they are not isolated by rubber.

    So, here is what i did, i measured the lower controll arm stud and the sway bar end that mounts the link, ordered a pair of male and female end links that fit together, ( same diameter and thread pitch) and put them on. You may need to play around a bit with washers to obtain the same fitted length across the ball end.

    If this sounds interesting, take a look at the Saner Bars that a lot of members have fitted, or pm me and i will go out and take a few photos and measurements.

    Bona fortuna,
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    Really appreciate all the help. There has been some progress. First picture shows the removal of the lower half. The goop in the picture is Aerokroil. I could find no evidence of the drop link inner sleeve, but instead only a rusty mess. The washer shown attached in the picture did indeed come off so I take that as a positive sign? The top half, shown still attached, came right off and is shiny smooth underneath.

    Other bummer is the second picture. Used replacement arrived courtesy of one of our usual suppliers, but is not a match :(. Will attempt to rectify that tomorrow.

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    Hi
    The front and rear links are different lengths. Parts manual will show the numbers.
    It looks as if the anti roll bar hit something, thus the link broke (Marks on the lower A arm). One of my links was welded, these are just aluminum (aluminium in some places :)).

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  20. Verell

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    It can be done (barely) with a 3 ton lever type arbor press & a couple of carefully selected sockets. Birdman & I used off the shelf ES poly bushings to replace the silentblocs. See this thread in the old Fchat for the procedure & ES part numbers:
    Replacing rear sway bar bushings (with pics)
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/112/320732.html

    Unfortunately the pics didn't survive the fchat hard drive crash.
     
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    Wow, that's an oldie but goodie (The "sway bar adventure...not gay bar!") Too bad the pics were lost.

    Birdman
     
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    Well dang. First, I get a "long" one when I need a "short" one. And now the short one doesn't match exactly. So they changed year-to-year? Starting to look like they must be bought, even used, as a matching set.
     
  24. Irishman

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    Okay, if someone 26 can post about going to F1 I can make a reach :).

    It took three tries but I now have my used drop link that matches the one I broke. But what I got is "empty" on the lower end.

    If someone with a '78 happens to read this post and did work with the sway bar, what I am trying to determine is if the two rubber-like cushions that make up the connection with the sway bar are supposed to have a metal sleeve or bushing inserted? There was nothing but rusty dust when I removed the original.

    And, yes, I should be going through all these suspension parts and refreshing them all but had not planned to do that this winter.

    Thanks,
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