Ferrari 330 P4 Joeuf Evolution

Ferrari 330 P4 Joeuf Evolution




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Unless you are willing to spend a lot of time on this model in modifications, it is an absolute crap. Too bad that for anyone who wants to have the 330p in their model collection there is no alternative.

 

your opinion is a little bit harsh for my taste. This model represents the injection moulding technology and design of the early 90s. Almost 20 years ago. These imperfections have their own special charm for me.
But I know; some people call my 1:1 308 GTB an absolute crap compared to a current 430

Best Regards from Germany

Martin

 

Wow, easy there man. I consider the 308/328 the last Ferraris that still have that "handmade feel" to them. Especially in the interior. Not to mention that they are a timeless design. Sergio Pininfarina said that the 308 was the second quantum leap in design at Ferrari. The 3rd and last quantum leap was the Enzo and the first was 250 GT SWB. That is pretty elite company for your car to be in, so tell the people that tell you that your car is crap to go swivel.
Now about the Joueff model. It is a piece of crap. Alto I agree what it represents, -the era it comes from, it also represents the poor design and quality of production. I have a couple of Bburago and Polistil Ferrari F1 cars from the '70s that have ten times better decals that I can not remove if I try today. The Joueff one's were falling apart before the models left the shelves. The panel fit is ridiculous not to mention that some of the lines are inaccurate. The engine is a shameful representation consisting of a plastic blob. There isn't a frame even remotely resembling the real thing etc. By contrast a model made by the same company during the same time (Joueff's 250 GTO '64) is fantastic when standing next to their 330P's. On the 250 GTO the engine is very well represented and the proportions are perfect (where the 330 is more like 1:17). Now if you want to talk about quality features directly associated with the production methods of the era, then you can have an excuse for the opening in the hood of the 250GTO which shows a very thick molding.
There were plenty of other companies that made lots of models at the same time and next to none are of such low build standards and quality.
I am sorry if this doesn't suit you, but unfortunately the truth is not always politically correct .
Having said all this, I have four of these Joueff models.

PS By the way this model represent the technology of the late 80's modelmaking. This would put it on par with Bburago's F40, 288 GTO and TR. Try to compare them.

 

I've got all the Joueff's, okay they are not Hotwheels Elite quality. But they have charm. They late 80's technology and still they looked alright for that time. I mean Bburago did some great models and their quality was not bad either. But it's all about the charm which the Joueff's have.

 

I agree, Lucky you trash on a lot of peoples likes for certain diecast on here. Face it some people just like things you may not, and I'm one who loves this Jouef as well.
A lot of collectors here will even buy beat up Ferrari diecast just due to the love of the type of car it is, or because of a fond memory of that car. To say your not happy with a cars detail would be one thing, but to slam so many peoples comments about a certain diecast is not called for.

That Jouef 330 P4 is long out of production, and I would call it a great diecast for the time frame it was released. I would never change or modify the car, I would just leave it as is... Great pics btw.

 

You know what happens with this diecast collecting, everybody plays musical chairs with what they collect because something 'better' comes along or they run out of space for a 1/18th scale collection. The models are no more than consumables. But lo and behold, in ten or twenty or thirty years time everybody says, 'hey, that Jouef is Ebay is expensive, I bet there can't be many left'. So never change it, one day 'maybe' it will have a rarity value that outweighs its accuracy. Either way, it lead the way for a couple of years.

 

Hey Hey Hey. I don't try to bash on anyone's comments or tastes. I am sorry if I did not make the point clear enough, but I like the Jouefs myself. I have four different ones in my collection. The 330P3/4 cars of the '60s are some of the most beautiful shapes ever created in automotive history. I feel passionately about them and actually paid quite a pretty penny (yes, on e-bay) to get them after I had long lost the original ones I had years ago.
I would agree they have their charm for what they are, but that does not make them any better made than they are. They are crap quality wise, compared to other models from the same era. A lovely crap that we all like to have, but crap never the less.
The truth is that they are the only models made of these historic cars and this is the only reason why anyone even cares about them. The Polistil F40 from earlier times is ten times better ,detail wise, than Joueff's 330s. Yet I never see any of them so loved for representing their respective era of production. They even had operating pop up headlights. But Bburago also made the model. It was ten times better looking and the Polistil effort was forgotten.
I don't have anything against other people's tastes or choices, but please call things what they are.
My problem has a lot to do with e-bay. When someone here posts something like " I got a Joueff 330P4. Great detail" on here and then someone who is on their 3rd model, just starting a collection, looks up e-bay and sees $78 for the model he goes "Oh I read on F-chat that it is a great model with great detail, so I should bid". Next thing you know we have crap selling for big bucks. This is evident if you follow the market closely (yes I do). This is why at some point you see 330s on e-bay selling for $200 and two months later they struggle bringing in $70.
There are people here who collect big and rare models that are very expensive. It is not my cup of coffee neither I agree that they are always better made than production models, but I admire them and the collections they are in.
We are not talking about opinions here. Weather the time of production justifies paying $100 for a crappy model because you like the real thing is matter of opinion. The Joueff 330P3/4 being of very poor quality, even where compared to another model from the same company and the same era, is afact.
All I am doing is trying to inform people on here. I started a reviews and comparisons thread. Maybe I should do the 330 P3/4 on it.
Right after the promised 348 review. Then everyone can decide for them selves and add whatever they have to say.

 

What 348 is it

 

I am going to post it tonight. Comparing all 3. A Bburago 348tb, Maysto 348ts, and Mira 348 Spider. Will do the 330 Monday.

 

Did you buy the real F40 then lol.
The thing is Lucky, you write a lot of things. My respect for that. Also I agree you write about people who just want to start collecting (I'm now a collector for 18 years). I don't agree with another thing. You can be a little bit to hard sometimes in the meaning that you break down somebody's joy. Also that you write so many things, also with a lot of apologies afterwards.

But again, I like your reviews/opinions but next time think a little bit longer before you actually give your honest opinion.

 

Hi

I hope this year the 330 from GMP came out

Regards,

 

1:8 330P4 by GMP is being sold under their Real Art Replicas brand.

See: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=181712

 

From everything that I've seen and read about it, it is a spectacular masterpiece of a model. 3 problems I have with it.
1. It costs more than the down payment on my car. And no, I don't drive a Yugo.
2. Thanks to its size I would need a whole new display case, which on its turn would need a whole lotta more space.
3. It presents a problem being displayed as there is nothing it can be displayed with except
a) Pocher models that would fall way short in quality or
b) Other limited bank busters like Amalgam.

This model is pretty much like the real thing. Only for the limited few.



everything said is in good humor.

 

can you post a pic of all the joueff 330p3/4's? i'm trying to collect them. i have three.

 

Some were made under the Joueff brand name and then some more versions under the Eagle Race name. Essentially the exact same model.
I remember having ordered the #24 Daytona car by way of a friend of mine who owned a hobby shop in the late nineties (they were still available then for something like $25) Oh the disappointment when it came with 3 front tires and only one rear. I still loved it more than the majority of the models in my collection. It got stolen together with about 30 others from the trunk of my car wile moving.

 

Theres a few other threads on here with more info about this car. Flip back a few pages and one should show up.

Here is one I got really lucky on last year, and paid $30.00 USD for.
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I'm sorry, my collection is in Holland. And I live in Australia since 4 months. I'm sorry I can't help you out with this.

 

I'll post a pic if I can. I have most of them, must be seven or eight variants, of all the teams......

 

From memory theres three different red race numbered versions, a plain red 'street' one, then NART white blue, yellow Francorchamps, and a green one for Piper....

 

I found more Jouef 330P4 pictures

http://www.eriksautos.nl/

And then go to "Ferrari 330P4" (obviously )
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i just bought that for over $100.

 

I still see them at Flea Markets and Hobby Shops here, for less $$$ wetpet...I'll see if I can find the rare colors.....

 

you da man!

 

The Joeuf 330 P4's are, well, they are not AutoArts. They are not Exoto's. Having said that, as an avid 1:18th scale diecast collector (over 200), they are not bad to the point that one would want to use them for door stops. That honor is reserved for AutoArt's sealed junk. I have three Eagles Race GT40's that are equal to the 330. They are not the best GT40 out there, but they suit me, since I detail all my models anyway. I love the GT40's. I've got Bburagos I dearly love and to most "serious" diecast collectors, Bburagos are out-of-scale pieces of junk. Buy what you like, and like what you buy. I don't have a Jouef 330, but I have a couple diecast-collecting friends who do. I'd love to get a hold of one of the green versions. . .