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  1. beama

    beama F1 Rookie

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    I'm not going to get into a stupid girls fight but will say that there are clearly double standards.

    Like I said quite a while ago, either have rules that are enforced or don't have any at all.

    In god we trust, all others, stricktly cash!
     
  2. greg246

    greg246 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Nothing like Greek Express eh re? :D
     
  3. beama

    beama F1 Rookie

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    Lucky I didn't unsheath the sword of Democles :)
     
  4. wax

    wax Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Apparently, some are unable to distinguish between content/context and content only.

    Allow me to help soothe your Germanic sense of logic.

    Fool me once - shame on me - fool me twice - shame on you.

    Caveat emptor = let the buyer beware.
    Caveat venditor = let the seller beware.

    In this instance;

    That's not a double standard. It's warranted. The buyer earned the right to call a spade a spade.

    Beware the fury of a patient man.
     
  5. beama

    beama F1 Rookie

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    Interesting Wax, we'll talk about it one day. Now get some sleep and sweet dreams.
    Uberimai fidei (sp?)
     
  6. greg246

    greg246 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Eh, I'm not that Greek :D ;)
     
  7. beama

    beama F1 Rookie

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    That's easily fixed, trust me.
     
  8. FFOUR

    FFOUR F1 Veteran

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    Rules are meant to be broken?

    I'm with beama/osg on this one. What a joke. Nobody other than the parties involved know the truth so neither party has the "right" to get away with name calling like that.
     
  9. 360C

    360C F1 World Champ
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    Not that I give a Rats about any of this nonsense; but I feel obliged to point out that A26 boy IS a real person. He worked for Philly about the time that Moretti's car was in the shop. Seemed like a nice, if somewhat eccentric bloke. He left to go sit in the fire towers in our national parks.
    Now whether Phil is currently using the ID, I neither know nor care. Since oil gate and PPI keeps coming up and he has no right of reply, would you blame him?

    FWIW JM, if you are thinking of me as Phil's cash cow you are way off the mark. The profit on my annual expenditure wouldn't keep the place ticking for a week.
     
  10. b27

    b27 F1 World Champ

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    Agree 100% 360C. Maybe let him back, but of course leave him and PP to sort it out in their own thread.
     
  11. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    have i mentioned my homage to FF? it's at www.pless.com.au

    and if he hadn't done what he did, he'd still be here, wouldn't he?
     
  12. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    omg...which car did phil give you a drive of?
     
  13. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    it's not that easy.

    he kept on coming out with so much crap (not just about oilgate) that i was often compelled to jump in to quell the bs. he doesn't like be told he's wrong.
     
  14. b27

    b27 F1 World Champ

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    Well now it finally comes out. After all we are all males :) We are never wrong.

    Hence all these refereneces to so long ago. :D
     
  15. FFOUR

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    The same one he let Beama and osg drive.
     
  16. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    actually...hadn't seen osg for a long time. where've you been hiding?
     
  17. osg

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    in the outside world............ you should try it sometime PP, you might make some new friends ;)
     
  18. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    hehe.

    sadly...it's not just a male thing. i won't bother going into too much detail, as it's all searchable, but most of the crap he spoke was just wrong, or would be classified as upselling.

    when you get your car back, i'll point it all out to you. (the upselling...not what's wrong)

    it's what a mechanic does to go from getting by to making a really good living.

    i spose i can't blame him for it really.

    he reminds me a lot of a guy called joe viola. he was an absolute master of it.

    i've only experienced two places that don't upsell in a way that makes it sounds like a must do :-

    graeme vincent automotive

    black stallion motors.

    i can't remember the number of times i've heard these guys say "well...you can do this, but quite frankly, i wouldn't do it if it were my car"

    all i can remember about phil is things like "you should put on this $25k shocker system...it'll take SO much off your lap times" and..."don't worry about your oil leak...we'll fix it when you do your engine rebuild" :rolleyes:

    of course everyone knows i'm a proven liar and fraudster, so you can ignore everything i've said (and not just in this post)



    but.......i digress.
     
  19. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    *shudder*

    no thanks!

    i like living in my little fchat world and never stepping outisde of it.
     
  20. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    that PPI was done over 2 years ago and yet some people stil lwant to keep bringing it up, I bought the car, fixed all the problems and have moved on but some here want to keep bringing it up and I will not have rubbish said about something 99% of the people here have NO idea about and should just shut up about, it's none of their business but they want to use it to get him back.

    And just for the record, FF and I were still friends after the PPI (emails to prove it), it was another personal issue that caused our falling out, not that the issue is anyone's business :
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    Ok, so basically, it's just the rear main leaking then.

    Not surprising, afetr trundling around Toorak and Richmond for months, and then getting a decent drive.

    That's good, as it's an easy fix and there was a question mark over the clutch anyway... that "notchy" feeling that came and went..... maybe some wear on the rlease brg sleeve?

    Good, glad things are basically normal then.

    Phil


    >From: "Moretti,
    >To: "Phil
    >Subject: RE: Oil leak
    >Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:46:05 +1100
    >
    >Hi Phil,
    >
    >I do not drive cars like this on dirt roads, ever.
    >
    >I put the car up on the hoist the second I got home as you would have
    >read in Fchat, to do all the repairs it needed and noticed the oil leak
    >immediately so after getting the radiator fixed and the front spoiler
    >done, I took it for a roadworthy where they said the rust was too bad
    >to pass (fair enough), the muffler needed the hole fixed (fair enough),
    >the horn didn't work (loose wire), and the oil leak was dripping too
    >bad to pass.
    >
    >Got the rust fixed for just under a grand (big job as the whole front
    >from the suspension forward had to be replaced), I had the radiator
    >repaired as the GT4 rad would have had to be cut up a bit and I don't
    >do that to these cars, took the car to xxxx xxxxxxx here on the Coast
    >and he says engine out to change the main gasket between the engine and
    >clutch housing, $3500 starting point !!
    >
    >Took the car to mechanic the FCA guys here in Qld use and he says the
    >rear main seal has gone plus the "O" rings for the gear selector plus a
    >leak from somewhere higher up in the engine so we can put the $3500 job
    >down to the guy needing some cash .
    >
    >I'll keep you informed of the result from the work done as I have it
    >booked in to be fixed in 2 weeks.
    >
    >BTW got the thing passed for RWC on the proviso that I had an
    >appointment with the Ferrari people to have it fixed.
    >
    >Cheers
    >
    >John
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    the PPI was done in January , 2 months before this email so for Phil to keep bringing this up surreptitiously through other people and using someone else's account to start it all over again is stupid and shows the insecurities of the person.

    I say move on or we'll drag out the rest of the emails and settle this publicly which would suit the gossip-mongers here
     
  21. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    just do it :)

    i'll post the emails about oilgate...hehe.
     
  22. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    you love this crap, I don't ...
     
  23. 360C

    360C F1 World Champ
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    Nobody but PP enjoys it or is even remotely interested in it.
     
  24. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    some other people like to bring it up as well after talking to someone

    plus I just went through my emails between FF and I and found this snippet :

    Nobody but you and I have the PPI AFAIK. And it'll stay that way where I'm concerned.

    well let's see, DD, A26, EFIOZ have seen the PPI and I know I didn't show them and their interpretation matches FF's to a tee
     
  25. b27

    b27 F1 World Champ

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    Been there, done that, with Peter Starr (ex HRT head engineer) with my HSV.

    I had an oil to water heat exchanger put in and going around Honda at Phillip Island all the alarms went off. Looked in the mirror and all I could see was white smoke. You know the feeling. My lifes over, cars dead. lol :) Blew an oil line. Just straight out bad engineering. I had a power steering cooler put in and that leaked as well. He blamed someone else who had put in a modified K frame. I was there when that was installed. Conclusion he is no longer in business.

    So perhaps we have both experienced bad suppliers and bad experiences.

    As mentoned previously I am happy with phils work to date on my car.

    I always judge a person myself pp. Been a member of FCA for 5 years and heard comments about you as well. But until I meet you in person i have an open mind.

    I still look forward to this coffee.
     

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