Proportioning valve. | FerrariChat

Proportioning valve.

Discussion in '308/328' started by chrismorse, Feb 26, 2008.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. chrismorse

    chrismorse Formula 3

    Feb 16, 2004
    2,150
    way north california
    Full Name:
    chris morse
    I seem to be havng a bit of difficulty in locating the stock proportioning valve. I have located the combination valve, in front of the passenger firewall, but seem unable to locate the prop valve itself. My garage is tiny and it is hard to get it far enough in the air for me to crawl under.

    I've got a track day coming up and would really like to replace the stock one with an adjustable tilton unit., as the new big stuff has the rears locking just a taste before the fronts and i do not want to suffer the embarrasment of a backwards exit from the course.

    Hopefully, trying to go straight :)
    chris
     
  2. greg328

    greg328 F1 Rookie

    Nov 17, 2003
    4,209
    Austin, TX USA
    Full Name:
    Greg
    Chris, on my USA 77 GTB the proportioning valve is in front of the driver. It's only visible if you remove the spare tire shroud. Kinda tough to get to. Just follow the rear brake lines from the master cylinder, you'll find it.. Isn't the F/R ratio .7?

    I also have a Tilton bias adjuster knob, and I'd like to install it too. Are you going to route it into the cabin, or what? I've been putting it off for a couple years now. You may remember I have big brakes on my 308..

    Greg
     
  3. barcheta

    barcheta F1 Rookie

    Nov 15, 2003
    3,738
    Maryland
    Full Name:
    Jim
    not sure where you are looking but I believe the proportioning valve is visible when you pull the the aluminum undertray off to get to the steering rack and bushings.
     
  4. Steve King

    Steve King F1 Rookie

    Feb 15, 2001
    4,367
    NY
    It is right under the removable aluminum cover under the front of the car. Once you remove the cover it is easy to remove and replace. If you get the car on a lift this is a simple procedure.
     
  5. greg328

    greg328 F1 Rookie

    Nov 17, 2003
    4,209
    Austin, TX USA
    Full Name:
    Greg
    True but you're probably going to want to work on it from the top. You're gonna have to remove the spare tire fiberglass shroud. In my case that meant drilling out rivets. I just used small sheet metal screws to re-secure it afterwards....

    I'd like to know more about how you plan to mount the Tilton brake bias knob. Gotta do mine someday...

    Greg
     
  6. Steve King

    Steve King F1 Rookie

    Feb 15, 2001
    4,367
    NY
    Well Greg I guess I just can't picture where your valve is located. I just went out and looked under my 77 and both valves are sitting bolted to the frame. In fact the bias valve is directly under the steering rack where the steering wheel shaft comes into the rack. Based on what I see there is no access from the top to the bias valve. So one of us has either had this moved or 2 different Italians assembled the cars. HAHAHA
     
  7. chrismorse

    chrismorse Formula 3

    Feb 16, 2004
    2,150
    way north california
    Full Name:
    chris morse
    Hi Guys,

    It is getting late this evening, but tomorrow, I'll have a shot at it, (as long as "she who must be obeyed" hasn't other plans).

    If the little item is buried, i may rig up a bypass t and install the tilton unit within the front compartment. Bending steel pipe for interior installation seems like more work than i want to go through for something that might get used once or twice, maybe on track days.

    My main issue with the F50 set up on the front and 360 challenge on the rear is that with the 1-1/16th wilwood tandem master cylinder, the hydraulics have worked out so that i need the "70 %) reduction brought in sooner - the rate of reduction might be fine but with all of the increased hydraulic and mechanical improvement, i need that proportioning to happen sooner.

    Big "AH HA" for me - once again - i find that i didn't know as much as i thought.

    It is humbling but fun to learn how the bits work.

    thanks for the help,
    chris
     
  8. greg328

    greg328 F1 Rookie

    Nov 17, 2003
    4,209
    Austin, TX USA
    Full Name:
    Greg
    Steve, indeed the proportioning valve is bolted to the frame in my car, as I'm sure it is in yours. I had a clear shot at it with the spare tire tub removed, so that's how I know how to reach it/work on it. I guess you could work on it from below, under a lift with the access panel removed. I just think Chris would have more access from the top. My valve is on the driver's side, is yours?

    Greg
    77 GTB USA
     
  9. chrismorse

    chrismorse Formula 3

    Feb 16, 2004
    2,150
    way north california
    Full Name:
    chris morse
    Greg,

    You are right on the lift thing. I still have to use jack stands and even with them up to the max, it is cold on the floor, there is little room to swing a wrench, what i want is a two post hoist - but what i'll probably get is taller stands and another floor jack.
    Too much work yesterday, so i didnt make it to the shop, will get to it tomorrow.

    What i am going to do is either gut the stock prop valve or replace it with a coupler, then install the tilton valve under the hood, so it is somewhat accessible, probably set it up by the master cylinder.

    Bigger brakes are for naught if the lever gets bumped off its correct position. I'll probably do some experimenting with the valve settings, find one that seems about right, then pull the handle, so it doesn't get bumped.

    thanks,
    chris
     
  10. greg328

    greg328 F1 Rookie

    Nov 17, 2003
    4,209
    Austin, TX USA
    Full Name:
    Greg
    Thanks Chris, good luck with it. Let us know how your Tilton install goes..

    Greg
     

Share This Page