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  1. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    The announcement was made back in October, but the magazine kept on going through December. Sadly now it is dead for good.
     
  2. modmaki

    modmaki Formula 3

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    it was over due for Dennis...he butch last season...lost of manufactures and drivers title way way too much for anyone to keep thier job.....
     
  3. jknight

    jknight F1 Veteran

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    If and when it's reported by Autosport, then it would have validity. Until then . . . . more for the rumor mill . . . . soap opera scripts!

    Carol
     
  4. Senna3xWC

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    The publishers bow have a different version, a sports business magazine that has a broader reach, though some portion of the magazine is still devoted to F1
     
  5. Simon^2

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    Ron... sssshhh about this for now. I'm still working on getting us an invite to RD's house warming party... We do have a table reserved for dinner though! :D
     
  6. anguruso

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    Bros before hoes!
     
  7. ferraridude615

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    Damn straight, you can always get a new wife, its much harder to get new friends.
     
  8. Whisky

    Whisky Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Simon, it depends, on the circumstances of his marriage breakup.

    It might be easy for us to think if he steps away from McLaren that that in itself would save his marriage, but I doubt it.

    He will probably end up out at McLaren, out from his marriage, and have to sell a chunk or all of his stake in McLaren to pay for the divorce.

    Either way, I don't wish that on anyone.
     
  9. anguruso

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    By the way guys, this is the same newspaper that said Alonso was going to rejoin Mclaren, after he had been fired late last year.
     
  10. fastback33

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    I know this is blasphemy on this board, but i want mclaren to win this year. the fact they wnet through all of that BS drama, to come out on top in 2008 shows a true competitor spirit.
     
  11. Senna3xWC

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    Where do you think Mercedes and the Arabs got their equity in Mclaren?

    Ron Dennis used to be a 50% partner in McLaren, he sold 20% to Mercedes and 15% to the Bahrainis. He is sitting on plenty enough cash to pay a divorce settlement without needing to divest the remaining ownership interest in McLaren.
     
  12. pdavid

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  13. IanMac

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    If he is forced out of his job of running the team I think he'd not be unhappy to sell his shares. He's not got enough equity to have any real say in what the company does in the future so what would be the point of hanging on to his interest? Unless he thinks the shares are likely to be an appreciating asset!
     
  14. ingegnere

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    You mean you want them to win after having admitted that they've incorporated Ferrari's designs in various areas of their car this year. That's an odd definition of "competitive spirit".
     
  15. Senna3xWC

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    Anyone who thinks that F1 teams adhere to the spirit of competition is deluding themselves. McLaren, Renault, and Toyota have all been implicated in corporate espionage in merely the last 3 seasons alone. Ferrari consistently votes down measures that would increase competitiveness in the sport, including budget limitations and testing restrictions. Super Aguri and STR bouth flaunt the Concorde Agreement regarding developing their own car designs.

    Teams are in F1 to win at all costs, not to play be the Marquess of Queensbury rules of fair play.
     
  16. parkerfe

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    That would be a shame as Mr. Dennis is one of the best...without him F1 will suffer.
     
  17. RP

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    Ron Dennis is tantamount to a donkey's rear. When he leaves, he will not be missed nor will the sport suffer.

    When Colin Chapman passed; when Ken Tyrrell passed; when Bruce McLaren passed; when Clark, Senna, Cevert passed; when Stewart and Schumacher retired; etc, nothing changed, the sport went on. There is no one personna in F1 that will change its future by leaving. And I have no intent of comparing Ron Dennis to any of these iconic names I mention.

    Ron Dennis will be an asterik in some future F1 book or journal: "Mr Dennis ran McLaren when the team got caught with its pants down and was handed one of the largest if not the largest fines in sports history for cheating."

    The only entity that would negatively affect F1 as a sport by leaving would be Scuderia Ferrari. F1 would crumble in three years, and Tony George would probably buy the remains and merge it into the IRL. God forbid.
     
  18. tifosi12

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    With the exception of Bernie's and/or Mosley's departure. Those will have an effect on the future of the sport.
     
  19. Anthony_Ferrari

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    Whilst I agree with your sentiment regarding Mr Dennis (I can't stand the fella), I think that the deaths of the drivers you mention did change the sport. Clark and Cevert dieing both helped to spur on Jackie Stewart to help increase the safety in F1 and he managed to get more support when others realised the likes of Clark were mortal. The death of Senna had even bigger repercussions as circuits and car designs were changed as a direct result of his death.

    I agree that Ron Dennis leaving the sport will hardly be noticed in comparison to the other examples you cited.

    Mosely or Ecclestone leaving F1 will be interesting.
     
  20. parkerfe

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    I never said F1 would cease to exist without Ron Dennis...he will be sorely missed though for his management that has brought his team many WDC and WCC. With Honda, Toyota Mercedes,Renault and BMW all having tire own teams and supplying engines to other teams making up almost all of the grid, F1 would continue even without Ferrari...
     
  21. Etcetera

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    Just got off the phone with Ron.

    He's not going anywhere.

    :)
     
  22. Senna3xWC

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    I disagree.

    Like him or not, Ron Dennis has an unprecedented record as Team Principal. Under his leadership, the team has won 7 WCCs and 9 WDCs, not to mention umpteen GP wins, poles and fastest laps. There is no other team pricipal in the history of F1 with statistics like that. You don't have to like Ron Dennis but to deny his achievements in f1 is ridiculous.

    McLaren got caught with their pants down, this is true. However the fact that other teams have been caught in similar circumstances (i.e. Toyota and Renault) but escaped sanction of any kind. That is likelier to be the bigger asterisk in the sport during this time period. I view the Stepneygate affair as an embarrassment to McLaren and Ron Dennis however I seriously doubt that this will be his legacy in the sport anymore than Schumacher's legacy will be that of transgressions rather than on-track achievement.
     
  23. kraftwerk

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    I agree with the whole post but this point erk's me, one rule should be applied to all ,but because it was out of proportion it can't..
     
  24. robert_c

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    hu·mor
    –noun 1. a comic, absurd, or incongruous quality causing amusement: the humor of a situation.
     
  25. tifosi12

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