Is Max Mosley Mentally Insane?

pretty sure jews hate nazis. not being a jew, i can't speak for them though. i got the point.

 

Seeing as it wasn't illegal it's just another act in the F1 circus.

 

So lets take this freedom to do as you please behind closed doors a little farther. What if it were five underage boys or girls having consensual sex? What if the women were his relatives such as sisters, cousins, aunts? What if animals were involved? Or blood drinking? Or, lets say it were more sadistic, like say for example the room was made to look like a shower, or Mengeles laboratory? How bad does it have to be before some of you say its enough? How insulting does it have to be to a particular people before you puke? What if they were black girls and he was acting out a rapist slave master fantasy?? Is there nothing someone could do that would bother you enough to want them to go away?? If not you need those type of people for your nieghbors. Personally I dont want them anywhere near me or my family, and I dont care to support an organization that has someone like that as the head of the organization. And seriously, if you can tolerate this kind of sh*t I wouldnt want you living around me either.

 

actually, no, you didn't

 

Not sure how to make this simpler for you to understand..... let me try.

Well, I didn't say "No offense, BUT....". I know what I intended and it wasn't to offend. No need for you to tell me what I really meant.

I couldn't care less if Max Mosley is a patron of hookers in London. Are you saying that simply based on the fact that Max Mosley has patronized hookers he should not be involved in motor sports?

I did not say Mosley is not a Nazi and I did not say that those after him are the Nazis. And you say I am trying to turn things around?

When someone quotes or refers to The News of the World for a story it immediately sets off alarm bells in my mind. This simply means I don't automatically believe what they write. A trashy newspaper AND one with an apparent Jewish connection alleging a guy is involved in a Nazi orgy again sets off alarm bells in my mind. I'm not declaring who is wrong or right but I see the POSSIBILITY for other agendas here (please absorb that word... POSSIBILITY).

Understand this.... I am not saying he did not do the things that were written. I did not say he should stay in his position. It may turn out that everything negative said about him is accurate. I choose to wait until all that is confirmed before I condemn the guy.

What I see is a guy (Mosley) that was well-hated previously for other reasons (perhaps valid) and now a whole bunch of people jumping on the bandwagon to oust him without waiting for all the facts to come out.

Keep in mind that if there was some "Nazi" element involved (costumes, role playing, discipline... whatever) it does not make him or anyone else an actual Nazi. Hopefully you can differentiate between the two. Having said that, Max Mosley may be a Nazi in his beliefs. I don't know. Do you? If he is then he shouldn't be in the position he is in.

Make no mistake about it... as much as you apparently see a bias in my viewpoint I see it in yours. I simply would like to see the "feeding frenzy" calmed down. If the guy is going to be removed from his position let's do it because he really is unfit to be involved in and represent top level motor sports and not because we hate him for previous motor sport decisions or because he was with hookers.

 

Great comparison, now lets make it even more valid:

Four of Monica's "girlfriends" join in. They are wearing white pointy hoods with eye holes, and nothing else. They make Bill stand with a noose around his neck, and the noose is tied to a simulated "old oak tree" branch while they whip his bare ass with a rolled up Confederate flag and shout "You've been a bad little slave" and "The South shall rise again!" Of course it is all videotaped and snippets are released on CNN.

Think that would have made a difference?

 

hookers are one thing - morally and socially its generally not acceptable for a married man to use them but thats between Mosely and his wife.

however the nazi issue takes it beyond a husband and wife thing to one now where his whole integrity is in question (again)
it would be bad enough for anyone to act out these sort of fantasies (and anyone who compares this to other more "normal" fantasies is living in cloud cuckoo land) frankly its sick, but for Mosely with his highly documented family history to do it shows not only that he has no place in a position of responsibility but is clearly a distrurbed and mentally sick individual

 

Yeah, I think that would have made a difference. It would kind of be like Mosley saying "Ze Third Reich vill rise again!" Or putting a hooker into a mock oven. That would be really sick and a "fair" comparison to what you offered.

 

They are all in the So.Cal section chasing bs.

 

Has the Nazi element been confirmed or not (by a reliable source)? I honestly don't know. I haven't watched the video although I'm sure it's available on the Internet. I don't plan on watching it. I'll leave that for others and take their word on their "findings."

 

should be intresting as time goes on with this, The internet forum world is going nuts about this !

 

Whatever the psychological reasons for it some people get turned on by sadomsochism.

If you grew up in a Nazi enviornment then this is the one where you'd imagine someone else being held and controlled against their will. Max probably dosen't have memories or visions of a dominatrix like people who suffer from this odd affliction in this country do. The usual women with a whip in a leather outfit or whatever doesn't apply to him.

Sex doesn't conform to social norms and in fact much of society's rules and taboos are in reaction to the cruelty and immorality of sex. Just because the Nazi's were terrible people doesn't make the appeal of bondage and control so inherent in Nazi culture any less desireable to masochist in fact it probably makes it even more appealing.

I don't understand this type of sexual attraction but at the same time i don't understand how people don't understand how a sexual deviant (my opinion) wouldn't get turned on in this manner.

Gross as it is it's his personal desires and he tried to keep them private. If he'd come out of the closet and tried to use his position in F1 to legitimize and bring attention to this then i'd be for dumping him but he didn't. What was done was done by consenting and of age adults.

 

This is just awful for the sport and F-1 image...I just read about the incident at http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/0604_mosley.shtml

VERY DISAPPOINTING

 

What exactly is it going to do to the sport? If I find out tomorrow that Bernie Eccelstone is a child molester I'm still going to like to watch Formula 1 and still be interested in race cars and races, the different drivers etc. Personally, I'm not interested in the F1 "image." Typically the people that are worried about the image are the ones with a financial interest in the sport.

Also, young people don't look up to Bernie or Max or aspire to become like them. They look up to the drivers and want to become one of them. Those are the heroes for the younger, more impressionable fans. In my opinion it's the drivers that should have the greatest sense of moral responsibility and try to be a good example. For the most part they seem to have done a pretty good job of it.

 

SRT Mike, I have been around here for a bit, but as I told you privately in an e-Mail, you are probably one of the most intelligent posters on this site period. You have a great way of expaining things that might be not so easy for certain people.

Yours Trully,

The Fat guy, althouth I only am 185LBS..................

 

http://www.sportspromedia.com/mosley.htm
As far as Mosley is concerned, his private life is no one else’s business. If he chooses to live on his own in an apartment in Monaco, he believes it his affair and no one else’s. But for sure the situation with his wife prompts gossip. No one inside Formula One has ever met Jean Mosley and she has never been photographed in the 37 years her husband has been involved in the sport. To the best of anyone’s knowledge, she has never attended a race or social occasion with her husband. She was apparently present when Mosley was awarded the Legion d’Honneur by the French government, but studiously avoided being photographed. She is said to live alone in France, as her husband lives alone in Monaco.

Max and Jean Mosley have two sons who have also never been photographed and have only ever been known to attend a few races in the 1980s. One is thought to live in France and the other dabbles in the internet from a mews house in west London.

Patrick and Alexander Mosley take great offence whenever the nature of the relationship of their mother and father is mentioned in the media. Officially Mosley is a happily married man, even if few actually believe it.

 

Hmmm... interesting. Looks like he doesn't have to answer to the wife or kids. Might explain why he's not being "satisfied" at home.

 

So you have no problem with putting money in the pocket of a pedophile. Interesting.

In case you wonder if your attitude is common, why not ask Michael Jackson how his career is going?

 

He admitted it. Please stick to copy-paste. It's what you do best.

 

If everyone was fired from their job because of their private sexual preferences the unemployment line would be very long...

 

What are you worried that they may want to join in?

 

Frank,

I disagree with you that the heads of state are just as bad. Most people are good honest hardworking folk and even if perverted debauchery is common amongst the population, we do not need to tolerate it in our leaders and certainly do not need to condone it with inaction when it's uncovered.

Mosley should go, and will go soon - let that be a lesson to other public figures who wish to act with the same hypocrisy Max did.

 

Funny... but, the world's heads of state, government officials and corporate executives are not known as the most moral groups of people...

 

Most people are good honest hardworking folk and even if perverted debauchery is common amongst the population, we do not need to tolerate it in our leaders and certainly do not need to condone it with inaction when it's uncovered.

Mosley should go, and will go soon - let that be a lesson to other public figures who wish to act with the same hypocrisy Max did.[/QUOTE]


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So who are you to judge what is perverted debauchery and what is just kinky sex? And, what hypocrisies have Mr. Mosley been involved in? I never recall him publishing his sexual modesty or marital fidelity...and being the customer of a prostitute is a misdemeanor in most Western countries, so if he should be fired for committing a misdemeanor, so should ever F1 driver who gets a speeding ticket or other misdemeanor...the sexual conduct between consenting adults is none of anyone else's business...if you want to live under the heavy hand of a moral police force, move to Saudi Arabia...