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  1. DGS

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    Speed was taken over by Fox net. Fox doesn't care about nascar -- they're interested in drooling mindless audiences. This is the group that runs wrestling on the SciFi channel, and killed off Firefly as soon as they saw it.

    Commercial television, at a corporate level, is based on selling garbage to idiots.

    Programming that stimulates a brain cell to twitch once in a while doesn't serve that purpose.

    (I was watching some rallye highlights on youtube a while back, and thought: that video came from an impressive channel; can we get that on satellite? Then I recognized the logo: Speedvision.)

    Speedvision was a start-up created by people more interested in motorsports than in making a quick buck by any means possible. SpudTV is a different critter.
     
  2. davidgoerndt

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    Commercial television is driven by ad revenues and to generate those revenues, demographics play heavily in the programming decisions. While the shows about the exotics are interesting for the most part, they are watched by a very small percentage of the audience. Speed airs NASCAR because it is way more popular than F1 will ever be in the US. The rest of the programming is following the trend in reality based content, because it's cheap to produce. Even the supposed how to shows like American Hot Rod, American Chopper (granted, not Speed programs) are based on conflict between the people on the show and not about the how to aspect of building cars. What we get is progamming for the lowest common denominator!
     
  3. AHudson

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    If you want to get the bends, watch Top Gear and follow it with Stupidcars Exposed. You may need oxygen.

    I did this last Monday and was absolutely embarrassed for the ditzy host, rotten story line, and jack-hammer camera work. The core problem is their inability to actually speak TO the car lunatics (unlike Top Gear, Peter Egan, scant few others) but AT them with the equivalent of teenager's-poster-on-the-ceiling type fantasy parade.

    My recall of one portion of the dialogue: "What an awesome day; here I am, driving in Hawaii, following a Lamborghini, a Ford GT, and me - I'm here in this Mclaren Merc - which is just awesome, and the power just goes on forever, and it's like, well, about the coolest thing you could imagine." (Shot of grinning host, then of hood view, then of wheels going by, vroom vroom.)

    Wow. I'm all tingly with knowledge.

    Dear Speed:

    Car shows should be for car fans. Speak our language, tell us what we didn't know, excite us with revelation or douse us with reality, but please - we beg you - don't let the visual medium and associated short term ad revenues be your sole excuses for airing. You can do better and we humbly deserve it.

    Love,
    Car Fans Everywhere

    P.S. Please cancel SuperCars Exposed as soon as humanly possible. Thank you.
     
  4. robert_c

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    Give credit where credit is due.

    I flamed supercars exposed on this thread, but I want to give it some kudos. We all know about the first CCX in the U.S. The black one in AZ. Well supercars exposed just did a piece on it, and the host talked the owner into letting him drive it. The owner hadn't let anyone, even his wife drive it.

    Some episodes are better than others. I liked this one. It also had the Areol Atom, the GT-R, and the Utlima.
     
  5. No Doubt

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    It's all the rage (apparently) to never let the shot stay in focus longer than one human blink...but I can't watch it when the editing keeps pushing in a different view every second or two.

    It's like...car, car, cut to new car view, car, car, cut to new scene...blink.

    If I'm interested in what's being shown I have to hit the TiVo slow-speed button, and that gets old so I just turn off the TV.







    (can you tell that I haven't watched much/any TV since 2003?!)
     
  6. PureEuroM3

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    The new era, or should I say SPEED in general sucks. Speedvision was great I would watch Rally,DTM, Le Mans, ALMS, F1 etc etc but lately like you said turn on SPEED consider yourself lucky if you are not watching this...

    Nascar, Nascar Race Day, Nascar 24/7, etc
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    MONSTER JAM!!!!!!! *ffs if I see any more monster trucks I'm growing a mullet*

    Get back to your roots and show some real motorsports!

    P.S For the low rider debate, the serious ones put more care into there car than some exotic owners. I bet some of them would be amazing to talk with about cars. There are the bad ones to just like the civics of course, some know some just claim to know!
     
  7. absent

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    I think they are getting better,the last one was not bad,better then any other show on subject that is produced in US.
     
  8. Terculees

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    Oh please! The Ariel Atom is one of my favourite cars of all time. Clarkson did a FANTASTIC review of the euro-spec one on Top Gear, taking it close to 200 mph on the track, where you get to see his face smushed like he's in a wind tunnel.

    Tanner "tested" the american-spec Atom, a much more powerful beast, ON THE ROAD! And got pulled over doing it.
    And the GT-R review was laughable. They didn't even mention that the company that designed the onboard computer interface software for the GT-R is the same company that did the instrumentation layout for Gran Turismo video games. They just said something like "This is the car that jumps from the playstation onto the street!" Wow, really Tanner? Thanks for the insight. Moron.

    Honestly, hire a goddamned writer. You have such geat automobiles at your disposal! Say something insightful about them!
     
  9. robert_c

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    All true. I think the audience must be the drifter/rice crowd as Tanner is world champ or something. I don't think they have a writer at all.
     
  10. DGS

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    Didn't the writers go on strike?

    Are they back yet?

    How can you tell?
     
  11. climb

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    It's better than another hour long special on an old muscle car.

    Agree it's not great but footage of exotics is better than most shows on speed.

    I'll take an hour of it over Dennis Gauge riding in a model A or Sam Memolo changing the radiator in a Buick or the rest of the good ole boy shows on there.
     
  12. TheMayor

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    Tanner said something like "Let's see what you get for your seventy grand when you buy THIS PUPPY" and I immediately hit DELETE on my Tivo. It's bad enough to listen to cliche's but when they come from the 80's, that's where I draw the line.

    I also agree it's worthless to try to test the performance level of a supercar on the ordinary road. It's like trying to judge a Miss America contestant from outer space.

    I have to ask... this series is called "supercars exposed". Can anyone tell me what is it that's being exposed here? It seems more like an excuse for a kid to drive a bunch of cars, say "that was awesome", and then break for a commercial.
     
  13. billg

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    There has to be something compelling about NASCAR. I don't know what it is, but someday I'm going to find out.
     
  14. TestShoot

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    QFT! Every podcast and TV show is exactly like this. A guy once told me at Crystal Cove, they may shows like this for the premature ejaculators lol He was right when I thought about it. No attention span, no stamina, and no way of actually measuring or understanding a supercar. The kind of kids that you put a jet engine on a go kart and they drool, not understanding what a horrible experience some cars are to drive.
     
  15. jvmax

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    until this show, the average audience hasn't seen these cars in action.. Not everyone can hob knob with the Ferrari Crowd. I agree, first episode was horrible. Since that one, they have gotten better and I am glad I did not cancel the Tivo.
     
  16. mgv1

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    Has anyone else noticed that pretty much every show they have to throw in an American car (Viper, Vette, Ford GT) and say how great they are, as if the Nascar fans will turn off if they don't get their fix?

    Of course it could just be me.
     

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