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on the fence about stradale's , need some help

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  1. toshiba

    toshiba Formula Junior

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    I was really wanting a stradale and now I'm not sure. looking for some advice if you think the price tags of these stradale's is reasonable or not. I know I say it to everyone to just enjoy a car, but I'm worried that very soon since the scud came out, that CS prices will fall fast, and it wouldn't feel nice to lose 20-50k very fast. I'm really on the fence with this one as I'm not sure if it's that really different then the normal 360, as I don't want to pay 100k more for it then. the 360 is my first fast car and not sure if I need to branch out and try lambo / porsche....Just wondering if I should wait for scuds to become available or throw the 200k at something else. just seems like a waste of money to me at this point as 200k is getting up there in price for a hopped up 360, maybe someone can lead me in the right direction . my list of things I'm thinking about:

    cons:

    100k more for some carbon and alcantara
    seems old now that the scud came out
    brake pads at around 5k!
    seems the tires are being discontinued



    pros:

    looks better then a 360
    more "rare"
    sounds nice
    just that wow factor when next to a 360
     
  2. slm

    slm F1 Rookie
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    Get a Stradale. I am sure that many others will chime in, but those of us that have them love them. The car is so much more than a hopped up 360 with some alcantera and carbon fiber. It truely is a totally different car. The prices had been stable for quite a while, but are now creeping up and I don't see that changing in the near future given the prices of the Scuderia.
     
  3. absent

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    +1.
    CS is a limited production car after all and not that many are around anyway.
    It's a great Ferrari on it's own and Scuderia is not going to make it irrelevant ,especially considering the huge price difference between the two.
     
  4. 996TTurbo

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    cons:

    100k more for some carbon and alcantara
    seems old now that the scud came out
    brake pads at around 5k!
    seems the tires are being discontinued



    pros:

    looks better then a 360
    more "rare"
    sounds nice
    just that wow factor when next to a 360

    GUESS WHAT, this is not the car for you if that's your comparison and pro's and cons of each sorry to say. Go for the 360, you will not appreciate the Stradale for what it is.
     
  5. cig1

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    Ditto

    You deserve a Porsche ... or better yet, buy yourself a Corvette

    G
     
  6. shawsan

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    Double Ditto: You should not buy a CS because it seems you have almost no clue about what you're getting into. I will happily withdraw my hasty judgement of "no clue" if/when you search the dozen posts on the CS, and read the latest June 2008 issue of Forza that compares the 360 and CS.
     
  7. cig1

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    Not that there's anything wrong with that

    G
     
  8. JChoice

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    Oh come on G, go easy on the kid. :D

    Based on your list (it's a bad list) and since you just got your car, I would enjoy your 360 for a while and then later, buy a Stradale. You'll appreciate it more and at that point, you may be in a financial position to not care so much about the depreciation. Get a Capristo Level 3 for your 360- it will make a huge difference in your enjoyment of the car. Throwing some 19s on the car and lowering it slightly will update the look of it.

    Just as long as you don't try a Stradale or park next to them too often, you'll be happy!
     
  9. Stradaleman

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    [Q I'm worried that very soon since the scud came out, that CS prices will fall fast, and it wouldn't feel nice to lose 20-50k very fast.


    Not likely the Stradale will drop that quickly. The fact that the Scuderias are virtually unattainable in the US, and the MSRP of close to $300,000 after options, will help support the CS values.

    Get the CS, you won't regret it.
     
  10. Jompen

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    #10 Jompen, May 28, 2008
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    First of all watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CnImIihIWs and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTXk8Tc-Wjs

    I had a 360F1 -00 before and have a CS since a few months. Let me tell You, these are two TOTALLY, I repeat, TOTALLY different cars. I feel the same sensation as I did when changing from my 996C2 to the 360 as I do now.

    Your pros and cons does not reflect the difference between these cars at all. The CS has the same type of brakes as Ferrari Enzo, ofc every part will be expensive. But they are SICK, stopping power is amazing, even compared to 997GT2 !

    Handling of the car is so much better, 360 is way to soft, even in sport mode. The car is more neutral and balanced vs the 360 imo.

    This is a car that is the rawest Ferrari since the F40 and rarer as well. It´s the baby super Ferrari ! It´s faster then a F430, F40, F50 and as fast as a 599 around Fiorano. It´s 1.5 sec behind the Enzo and 2.5 secs after Scuderia. You get the type of performance we are talking about =)

    GL with the cs, if you can afford it you will NOT regret it.

    If you don´t go to a track however, you gotta be a true car(ferrari nut to change.

    Tbh I would never buy a Scud to replace my CS. Scud and F40 are the same prices in Europe, I would keep the CS and buy a F40 as well.
     
  11. charliebronson

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    Test drive a CS and an f430. Since you are "getting into the realm of collecting them" you should buy both of them. Also buy the scud when it pops up on the 2nd hand market.

    -Peter Oh
     
  12. masar

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    #12 masar, May 28, 2008
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    I would keep 360 for while and later buy CS. Thats exactly my plan. I own 360 from last summer and plan to keep her for some time, min. another 1 year. Than i would like to get CS since its for me best affordable super Ferrari and its becoming to be collectable. And considering the shape / sound yes its difference compare 360. So I putted complete CS stuff on my 360 except engine lid (check picture below)and Capristo 3 + highflow cats. No huge investments as temporary solution till i get CS and e.g. my sound is even better than CS and i can also park next to CS without being frustrated :) :) ..... i just did not put stripe (althought i love stripe) and original CS wheels since it would be already like i want to cheat/ imitate that i own CS - thats not my plan.....
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  13. absent

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    That $300k MSRP is also virtually unattainable in the US.
     
  14. absent

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    CS is a very SPECIAL Ferrari indeed and I don't believe there is any downside in buying one ,it is still generally unapreciated and it's value can only go up.
    If I did not get lucky and could not get allocation for 430S at sticker I would still sell/trade in my 599 and get a nice clean,best one I could find CS ,for keeps.
     
  15. ILuv4Res

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    Scud = $300k MSRP + $150k markup = $450k.

    CS = $200k.


    If you get a CS, you will quickly realize that you will not find a more amazing car to drive, that is so raw, and is the best value this side of the 'supercars'.
     
  16. Derek Trotter

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    The CS is a really fab car, but if you're not going to the track, a 360 may fit the bill better as it's more forgiving over bumps/pot-holes/Rizla papers!

    The CS is very hardcore and may become wearing over time on the road, but just wait till you get it to a track :).

    I can't see the CS depreciating like a falling stone either.
     
  17. StoryBook

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    +1
     
  18. toshiba

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    thanks guys for all the comments, just what I needed at a time of such confusion

    one thing, how do you know if the CS or any car as had body work / paint done to it ? I'm worried after reading the story stradale thread, to think the stradale I'm looking at has had work done to it.
     
  19. 996TTurbo

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    LOL?!?!?! I said what I said because of all of the similar acquisition questions on the Porsche forums of a Turbo vs GT2... I have had both, now my RUF GT2 and it takes a special owner, why I need a stradale to sit next to my GT2, if someone asks these type of questions it just simply isn't for them!

    Toshiba don't get confused, do what you feel is RIGHT, and to get to that conclusion test drive ALL and see what stirs the soul the most for you!

    GOOD LUCK :)
     
  20. Jompen

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    An authorized dealer can check every single part ordered from Ferrari Italy for every single car, at least in Europe. Easy to find out.
     
  21. ILuv4Res

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    Ask questions, get history, get a PPI, loads of info here, paintmeter, etc, etc, etc....... Better safe than sorry.
     
  22. cig1

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    Just kidding ... my close buddies have both Porsches and Corvettes.

    I only say that because it seems to be a lot easier to pull the trigger on them as opposed to a CS.

    Someone shouldn't buy a car like a CS because they heard they were cool.

    G
     
  23. toshiba

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    ^ i would say I understand the CS, I did write this before bed, and right when I canceled my flight to see the car.....

    I've read for 2 days straight on here about CS's and then kept re-reading them. watched youtube videos....


    just got real nervous before I wrote this, I'm all better now, have a PPI and compression test on order right now, will see how these go and then go take a flight out to see it in person.

    here's the on I'm looking at: http://www.ferrariofdenver.com/inventory_detail.cfm?id=982#
     
  24. mw575

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    Seems like a great buy at 192-194 K.
     
  25. ferrame

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