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Computer Reset on a 97 355

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  1. Loser

    Loser Formula Junior

    Apr 11, 2008
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    I have a 1997 F355 Spider and it failed smog. It passed the 25MPH test but failed the 15MPH test. The only issues were with the computer and the NO (PPM) readings. The NO for 15MPH was 667 (Max Allowed 424, Avg of All Vehicles 57). The NO for 25 MPH was 444 (Max 711, Avg 50).
    The computer failures were P1115 Manufacturer specific code, P0137 O2 Sensor Low Voltage (Bank 1, Sensor 2), P1691 Manufacturer specific code, P0134 O2 Sensor CKT Inactive (Bank 1, Sensor 1), P1119 Manufacturer specific code. The test operator suggested clearing the computer since the previous owner did not have the cats installed. They are installed now. My question is how do I clear the computer? I removed all the battery cables and switched the battery off, but I'm not sure that did the trick. I also found that there are some rechargeable batteries behind the seats. If I disconnect those and the main battery, will the computer clear?
     
  2. rennspeed

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    Hey Tom:

    Get an OBD-II scanner and you can clear the codes that way....if you don't have a scanner you can go to AutoZone and they will let you borrow theirs for free.
     
  3. Loser

    Loser Formula Junior

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    Thanks. I have done some more research and ordered an Equus 3100 scanner. I will probably go to AutoZone tomorrow and see if they will let me clear the computer since the scanner will not arrive for a couple days.

    Tom
     
  4. Ferrari Fanatic

    Ferrari Fanatic Formula 3

    Apr 2, 2003
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    Tom, be aware that after you clear your codes your car will not be ready to test for up to 200 miles. After the reset the OBDII needs to complete a cycle of your sensors. In Cali all but 2 of your sensors need to have competed a test cycle. Depending on driving conditions it could take 200 miles of driving before the tech plugs in to your obii and says you are ready to test. If you buy your own tester then you can leave it conected to your car. If the icon for each of your sensors is blinking then it has not completed its test. You have to wait until you get all but 2 lights solid.

    Also you may first want to check the air pump fuse in the pass fotwell. I worked on my buddies car and he had the same problem. We put in some higher octane gas and replaced the fuse and whalla it passed. Not sure which one it was but it worked.
     
  5. Ferrari Fanatic

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    sorry just re read your post. Sounds like you will need to reset your check engine light. Also was your cel on or did the tech say it was a pending code ?
     
  6. Loser

    Loser Formula Junior

    Apr 11, 2008
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    The check engine light is off. It comes on for a few seconds as I start the car, then turns off and stays off. The previous owner had it disconnected due to not having the cats installed. Since it lights up when I start the car, I am assuming it is now connected.
     
  7. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
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    P1119 = O2 sensor heater circuit (pre cat sensor) Bank 2, sensor 1. Driver's side precat O2 sensor needs replacement.

    Have you had the OBDII plug recall/update peformed on your car? It is free at any FNA dealer, and required in order for the OBDII scanner to work on your car.

    Your car should not need a 200 mile drive cycle after clearing the codes. I was told by a FNA technician that the Motronic only requires two separate 30 minute drive cycles after clearing the codes. But I could be wrong...
     
  8. Loser

    Loser Formula Junior

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    Is there a way to tell if the update has been performed. I just purchased the car and am the third owner.
     
  9. Ferrari Fanatic

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    OK that makes sense. If the light is off then you had a pending code that you can pull with an OBD II reader. If the CEL is on or all but 2 of your sensors have completed a cycle, YOU WILL NOT be pass a Cal Smog Test. An illuminated CEL is automatic failure. Lets communicate via PMand I wil walk you through it.

    I was a California Licensed Smog Technician years ago. Not much has changed since then but the Cal Smog Testing has becoming insanely stringent.
     
  10. Ferrari Fanatic

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    There are contionous sensors and sensors that read only during certain cycles, (ie, the EVAP will only test with a certain level of fuel in the tank).

    In order to smog test in Cali, after a CEL reset the OBDII needs to complete an entire drive cycle. It will not do a drive cycle at WOT.

    Google "OBDIIdrive cycle" and you will see the 25 steps one must follow to force a drive cycle. Each manufacturer has a slightly different procedure.

    Example, "turn on rear window defogger (on a Ford), start car and accelerate to 50 mph, DO NOT touch the brakes, slow to 25 MPH, hold for 2 minutes, etc, etc. Some procdures have 25 steps or more.

    It could be done in 30 miles if you know exactly what to do but random driving I put money on it would take over 100 miles to get all of the sensors to go solid on the OBDII reader.
     
  11. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
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    #11 f355spider, May 27, 2008
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    You can call your local dealer and have them enter the VIN. You can also compare to this FNA bulletin and see if the pin layout matches. You need to have a ground pin in slot #4.

    Sure sounds like you may need to replace all your O2 sensors, but not a bad idea to clear the codes first, and see if they come back to confirm. The more sophisticated OBDII readers will let you read the O2 sensor outputs and confirm immediately.
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  12. Loser

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    Thanks for the info. I will check my connector in the morning. I'm hoping the O2 sensor issue is a result of the previous owner not having the catalytic converters installed. When he reinstalled the converters, he did not reset the computer.
     
  13. Loser

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    I have visually confirmed that the update has already been performed. My ODBII reader should be here tomorrow.
     
  14. Loser

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    I checked the air pump fuse in the passenger footwell and it was blown. I put a new 15A fuse in. When I get the code reader tomorrow, I will recheck the codes.
     
  15. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
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    The factory fix is to install a 20amp fuse. If you install a 15amp it will blow again, perhaps very soon.
     
  16. Ferrari Fanatic

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    Man I m getting good at this :)

    PM me if you get stuck. I was a licensed smog tech years ago. Sounds like you have a several issues. I am not sure if I would reset your codes yet. NO is produced when cylinder temps reach a high temp. So question is what is causing that ? Also every time you do a complete Cali smog test the results are sent to the state. You will need to be strategic in your approach. Also the Seller was responible for furnishing the smog cert. Curious, where is he now ?
     
  17. Loser

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    The seller has agreed to cover repairs to pass smog. However, if I can repair them quickly myself, I would prefer to do it that way and just have him cover the parts. That way I can learn from the process.
    So, I have replaced the 15A fuse with a 20A fuse for the air pump. The air pump makes a high pitch squeal for a few minutes until the engine warms up. I am assuming this is normal. I have the Equus 3100 OBD2 code reader. It is showing code P1692. 1 = manufacturer specific, 6 = Computer Output Circuits 92=?????. It also shows P1115 ECT Sensor Intermittent High Voltage, P0137 O2 Circuit Low Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 2, P0102 Mass or Volume Air Flow Circuit Low Input, P1119 1 = manufacturer specific 1 = Fuel and Air Metering 19 = ?????, P0134 O2 Circuit No Activity Bank 1 Sensor 1. Also, when I plugged it in, the C, EV, 2A, O and OH were all blinking meaning that the tests had not completed yet. The M, F, and CC were solid. CC = Comprehensive Component Monitor, F = Fuel System Monitor, M = Misfire Monitor, C = Catalyst Monitor, EV = Evaporative System Monitor, 2A = Secondary Air System Monitor, O = Oxygen Sensor Monitor, OH = Oxygen Sensor Heater Monitor.

    Should I pull the O2 sensors on the drivers side? Can I have them tested somewhere? What about the P1115 and P1119 codes?
     
  18. No Doubt

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    Which means that your computer was reset recently...which is in poor taste to do prior to selling a car because it erases codes and clears the CEL.
     
  19. Loser

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    Actually, I think I accidentally cleared the codes when I was trying to learn how to use the code reader. I put the original codes read from the computer at the start of this thread.
     
  20. Ferrari Fanatic

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    Tom, that is a lot of codes. Are you sure you just don't want to put it on the Seller? Regarding parts here is an example: an O2 sensor is around $180 and there are 4 of them. There are alternatives to the factory 02 sensor but you will need to splice the wires. Remember, on these OBDII codes they tell you where to look, but don't identify the exact remedy. I think you will get through it but it is going to take some time. Also, once you throw the CEL light then you will need to make the repair, reset the light, and then drive again. With gas at over $4.00 a gallon it could get costly.

    Just my .002
     
  21. spider348

    spider348 Formula 3

    Nov 3, 2003
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    I bought the correct Bosch O2 sensors with OEM connector for around $70 each. No splice required but they did not come in a yellow box with horses! If I recall correctly f355 spider gave me the tip. I can check for source if interested.
     
  22. No Doubt

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    Clearing individual codes is not the same thing as reseting the computer, although reseting the computer does also clear the codes.
     

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