MARK WEBBER: Race Or No Race In Montreal **SPOILER**

I am not new to F1 by far; but this is the same group (some members, not all) that whined about losing traction control too while races had been run for DECADES without it. My point was they get paid a TON of money because a) they're supposed to be the best in the world and b) it's dangerous.

 

Precisely, and that same group don't like it when there said driver can't adapt to whatever it is outside there comfort zone.

 

Suicide is not what F1 is all about. The track is producing marbles and lots of them so it's like ice. No driver is paid to crash and that is what's going to happen. The morning paper in Montreal has many different articles about the track and none of them good. Most of these guys are very young and to go out and get physically harmed by taking stupid risks is something that they should not have to do. What about the tire incident at Indy? Safety and politics shut down the race. I don't think the best drivers have a chance on this type of Russian roulette.

 

Oh well on that basis call it off when it rains,

Iam all for safe racing, but these guy's are paid top dollar for being in the sport, and they dont have a gun pointing at there head,
they have a choice.

The cream rises to the top in whatever is put in front of them. There are folk on here wishing for rain to add to the mix now, why is that... ermmm.

 

The teams have special tires for rain. Massa said the corners are like driving in sand. It's hard to get grip in sand. I don't see how their salary has anything to do with having a track come apart. Coultar thinks the race should be canceled. Rain is a normal thing in racing. I am going to the track and I hope no one gets badly hurt. If your rich , you are still dead, when you die.

 

Well I hope you get to see a race, I would think driving behind a F1 car in the pouring rain is ia a tad more dangerous.

 

There's a world of difference between a known, computable (calculated) risk like rain and arbitrary "traction free" spots scattered around a surface. These cars can pull over 3Gs of grip -- that's more Gs than a shuttle launch. To have that grip suddenly vanish at random spots is like scattering land mines around the track.

You guys have been watching too much american style television. Would you like random hazards popping out of the track to keep it "interesting"? Maybe oil hoses squirting at random across the track? Give the drivers paint guns?

And didn't Canada sign up for the land mine ban?

 

So what you suggesting then.?

 

could someone tell me what happened in Dallas in 1984.
Thanks.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_United_States_Grand_Prix

 

Mansell; When drivers carried "them" around in buckets.

De Angelis came home an eventful third, comfortably ahead of Laffite in the second Williams. De Angelis' teammate Mansell made contact with the wall on the last corner, breaking a driveshaft and coasting to a halt. Illegally, but to the delight of the crowd, he began pushing his car, but collapsed with exhaustion before reaching the finish line. He was classified sixth, three laps behind, as Piercarlo Ghinzani nipped him to the line to take fifth in his Osella.

 

Finally! Someone figures out how to crack the American market for F1.

 

It depends a lot on climate. No matter how good a paving that track gets, if frost buckles it and heaves the track, there is no recourse except to pave it again.

 

+infinity and beyond!

You can lweis to the list too for his crash at Germany(?) last year...

 

Race control message that just popped up on screen: "drivers should use the outside of turn 10 for reconnisence laps"

 

I heard all the drivers on Michelins are boycotting the race.

 

That's often a matter of roadbed prep -- a good stone roadbed can drain off water and keep frost from deranging the paving.

But it's easy to just blame the weather instead of doing the more costly job -- governments in northern climates do it all the time. Tearing up a main road to give it a good repaving would divert traffic for a long time. The drivers would be annoyed. But when the paving comes apart three months after being just patched over, "it's the climate".

(I lived in the Boston area long enough to become a cynic. The "paving" they did on the street in front of my house couldn't even stand up to the VRs on the GTV-6 making the turn into my driveway. The driveway was fine. The town road .... "it's the climate".)