My hair is starting to thin, what to do?

This is wierd, sort of funny

3 days ago I noticed my forehead swelled up, probably from the trauma of 1200 puncture wounds to my head, Dr gave me some disinflammatory meds

yesterday I notice my nose is swelled up, looks like I was in a fight almost, still here this morning, no pain, I just look wierder than usual

I hope this goes away in a few days

stitches out of Friday

should start getting back to normal then

I see the new tiny hairs poking out but I have to use a magnifying mirror to really see them, they will probably fall out in 10 days then regrow back permanently by Sept

 

Brad, take it from a girl - bald(ing) men are HOT!
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good for them

I'll take my hair anyday over that bald head. Not a day goes by that I don't thank the big guy upstairs that my transplant took...

 

It's true. If I had known this years earlier, I would have been shaving mine back then.

I still have pretty much a full head of hair, it's thinning in spots, but I just LOVE clipping it to stubble (or sometimes using the Headblade and making it smooth). Chicks like to rub it, don't know what that's about, but I'm not complaining.

RMX

 

Amen!

Who wants to look like an old man before their time.

 

Where's the pics William? Even if they are bad, it is good to see real world pictures of the progress. Post them in subscribed if you need to?

 

You never ask why chicks like to rub your head. If I can get a chick to scratch my head, or do it on her own without me asking it's pure heaven. I could lay there for hours. The **** is awesome Hell it feels great on my back too.

 

Beckham, Vin Diesel, Nolasco - those guys do not look old IMO. Maybe to you.

RMX

 

Actually I really don't know why, they just do it. Happens to me on my gigs too - some girl will come up to me on stage and just wrap her hands around my head and start massaging. Never had that happen when I had a full head of hair. I like it (no question) and would never turn back. I don't miss the gels, shampoos, conditioners, hair dryers, etc. either. You can have all that stuff.

One thing, though, is you need the right shaped head to pull it off. I think someone else here mentioned if you have bumps or irregularities on your skull, it doesn't work so well. I will agree. It's a GIANT leap of faith to take a pair of clippers to your head of hair, that's for sure. You never know what's under there until you start clipping and by then it's often too late! I did mine in a fit of frustration on a very bad hair day and just said "f--- it!", I didn't care. That was four years ago.

RMX

 

It will probably be September before I really see the results so you guys will have to wait too

Maybe I can post some next week when it looks a bit more normal

 

So how's it going William?

If you want an update of my Provillus experience let me know.

Cheers!
Wes

 

Never understood what the fuss is about with hair. I have good hair, and women love to run their hands through it. It's a nice feeling, when I am driving and some hot chick is sitting next to me, running her hand through my hair (won't mention what her other hand is doing).

I have gone bald too, and yes I have bumps and irregularities in my skull. Women just loved it. To be honest, I got a little tired of constantly being asked if they could touch my head, it's why I grew my hair back after six months.

I hate having to deal with hair, and keep it very short. I would happily go bald if I had thinning hair.

It's all in your confidence and attitude. I have countless guy friends who fret for hours and worry about clothes and hairstyle and rogaine adn styling gels and god knows what else. I thrown on a t-shirt and pair of jeans or cargo pants, don't even bother to comb my (short) hair, and yet I am the one with the women swarming around. I don't discuss guy stuff like cars and sports with women, and I spend a lot of time running and biking so I am fairly lean--I think that is the secret. Oh, and I don't drink much, if at all.

 

Interesting about chem that shrinks prostate --> stimulates hair growth. I have read that testosterone attacks hair folicles, especially during stress. So my question is, do these medications reduce testosterone? Reduced testosterone results in possible disease states not related to libido.

Observing my own hair loss over the years, I have seen a close correlation between stress and hair loss. So my messgae is: PREVENT STRESS (best) and LOSE IT AFTER IT HAPPENS (second best). These will involve worldview, view of self, the threat level percived in external phenomena, etc.

Short version of an excellent way to stop--short term--hair loss (it takes effort but does not cost much):

Once or twice a week, take a hot bath with 1 pound baking soda and 1 pound sea salt. THIS IS NOT Epsom salts. Use the off-colored salt, not white. Make the water as hot as is bearable.

The above remedy was not given to me for the puspose of stopping hair loss, but that is a side effect I noticed. The puspode was to offset stress and the body's absorption of flouresent light and other crappy EM radiation.

Massaging the scalp is also recommended to keep the skin from choking the hair folicles.

The above takes a lot more discipline, self-reflection, and effort than popping a pill from Big Pharma, but I believe long term they bring more satisfaction with life than the chem route.

 

This is medicinal quackery. Baking soda and sea salt in hot water to "offset the body's absorption of fluorescent light..." errr, what?

Light is light. Photons are photons. They don't care if they come from the sun or from a fluorescent light tube. Are photons from bulbs getting stuck in people skin and causing stress?

Seriously folks, all of these remedies are bizarre. You can rub your head on a skunks ass if you like, but the days of George Costanza trying bizarre scalp ointments from China are over. There are published medical studies showing that medications like Propecia WORK in more than 90% of men. That means you take a pill once a day, and your hair loss stops or it grows back. No need for medical quackery, no need for homeopathic remedies and no need for anything else. Just take a pill, hair loss stops.

The side effects are very well documented and occur in something like less than 1% of men. There are also other benefits such as reduced likelihood of prostate cancer.

 

Science & research say....of 5 men:

1 will keep his hair his entire life
1 will go bald at an early age
3 will gradually lose their hair over the course of their lifetimes

Go by your local hospital and look at some of the people undergoing treatment for various illnesses. There's thousands of worse things that can afflict someone. Hairloss, pffft.....whatever. Life is a collection of experiences, it wouldn't be interesting if it was all easy, fun & simple.

 

After cursing Mother Nature (or was it Mature) Buy:

Ferrari
Harley
Rottweiler
Speedboat
Lifetime Maxim subscription with lawn sign
Lots of hats
Direct line to Dr. Bosley
Hope chest
Picture of the top of my shaggy head with a bulls eye on it!

 

What is "they?" Do photons have consciousness? You rolled your eyes prematurely: as with all electromagnetic radiation, different wavelengths have different depths of penetration. You appear not to have read closely nor to know anything about physics. I did not say anything about photons getting stuck in people's skin and causing stress. You made that up, of course. Stress is mostly self-created--fight or flight instinct--not created by light. No matter; neither reading comprehension nor accurate writing are a part of your game, obviously.

My experience trumps your worthless sarcasm. The bath reduces stress. Period. I have observed the stress reduction slow hair loss. Period.

As for "light is light, and photons are photons," well, that's just profound, isn't it? However, different wavelengths have different effects, and light sources produce different wavelengths of visible and invisible light. Studies exist that show full spectrum light is mood elevating, whereas fluorescent tends to be depressing. I used such studies to get a past employer to buy full-spectrum light sources.

When it comes to vanity, plenty of quack medicine abounds. However, what I assert is not quackery. Too much stress is destructive to health, and that is my main point. Hot baths reduce stress, and salts aid this. If you're not too arrogant, ask you doctor.

As to the credibility of your response: the reference to a fictitious TV character and his fictitious scalp ointment China as an argument seem infantile.

So, the thread promotes one thing as a popular belief: Propecia works at reducing hair loss by the relatively passive routine of popping a pill. That's fine. No argument there.

 

So substitute the tin foil hat for the ball cap....

 

Right on.

 

No need to get all pissy, but I reiterate that what you wrote originally is homeopathic quackery. Like the notion that magnetic bracelets will reorient ions in your blood for better health or that toxin-removing foot pads will make you healthier, etc.

You did not say that the bath was to relieve stress from flourescent lights, you specifically said (and I quote) "The puspode was to offset stress and the body's absorption of flouresent light and other crappy EM radiation."

"absorption of fluorescent light". But as I correctly pointed out, fluorescent light is just photons, no different than other light. And "absorption" of fluorescent light is not something that is in any way harmful or something that needs to be offset by or will be affected by boiling yourself in a salt bath. And I left the "and other crappy EM radiation" part alone because frankly, that was even more silly. EM radiation is absorbed by the body but is offset by taking a bath in salt water? Uhhhh ok.

And finally, if you have any sort of evidence that massging the scalp or reducing stress can lead to lower levels of hair loss, by all means, post it. There is no shortage of moonbats (not referring to you specifically) out there that believe that things like the aforementioned magnetic bracelets are the key to longevity, or that pomegranite juice clears out toxins in your blood, etc, etc. But we have entities that test these things and they are governed by the FDA.

Reducing stress is great. Hot baths may be great for mental health. But boiling yourself in salt water ain't gonna do jack sheat for hair loss, and the problem in espousing these remedies as if they are factual, is that people may actually take the advice seriously. There are a lot of gullible folks out there and the placebo effect is strong with some. There's a reason Enzyte can afford to sponsor NASCAR teams and buy TV slots! But for anyone who actually wants to cure hair loss, there are some things that *actually* work and have a very very low chance of side effects.

Propecia works in over 90% of men. You take one pill per day. The side effects, if they occur, go away when you stop taking the pill. And as our good docs pointed out, you can get a script for Proscar, cut them, and stop hair loss for literally pennies a day, and seriously reduce the risk of prostate cancer while you're at it! If a man is part of the < 1% of men who experience the side effects of Propecia, then other remedies should of course be considered. But suggesting that someone not pop a pill (that actually works) in favor of scalp massages and baths in salt is bad advice, because it won't work and because people may actually take the advice with the hope of it working, while ignoring a treatment that *will* work.

As for the idea that it worked for you - that's great. I have a lucky watch that keeps tigers away. In all the years I've worn it, I've never been attacked by a tiger, so it must work right? The FDA requires studies for precisely this reason - to delineate between BS and fact. And fact is, Propecia works. Salt baths and scalp massages don't.


Propecia, FTMFW.

 

According to your profile, you're not so old that you have become rigid and dogmatic in your thinking. Therefore, I suggest doing homework on this subject and also watch out for those who want to sell you the answer. In its effort to make more more money, Big Pharma wants to use drugs for an ever-expanding list of uses. Propecia apparently was approved for treating prostate conditions, something you are not likely to face for DECADES. Noticing a side effect, Big Pharma can also market a drug to treat other conditions (it's called "off-label" use of a drug), and that's not always bad at all. However, hormones are very powerful chemicals and therefore, IMO, trickier to apply as a remedy.

According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propecia), Propecia and testosterone do interact. Also, I have read that males who are very heavy drinkers often have a full head of hair because their drinking wipes out testosterone production over time. Reducing testosterone might well reduce hair loss, but at what price? According to Wiki, testosterone relates to many other bodily functions. Propecia might be worth the risk for treating prostate conditions, but is it worth treating hair loss by reducing testosterone? As I mentioned to one superficial thinker in this thread, low testosterone is associated with a variety of disease conditions.

One of the easiest things to do would be to study this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propecia

I suggest that things to avoid are expensive miracle cures and relying on a different pill to address every one of life's annoyances.

 

Well then....if Propecia is so great, then why did William need to go for a transplant?

 

How can I speak for William?

Propecia was approved in 1998 I believe. Perhaps William had already lost much of his hair by then? Or perhaps he did not want to wait for the results (it took my 9 months before I saw much regrowth). Or perhaps he just wanted instant results?

You cannot argue with facts. The *facts* are that Propecia works in more than 90% of men and has side effects in something like 1%. For more than half of that 90%, they regrow hair. The rest of that 90% stop losing hair. Maybe William was in the 45% or so that didn't get regrowth but stopped losing?

Why would anyone be against a treatment that works, and in favor of treatments that don't work? I know people are often desperate and frantic when they start losing their hair... I was too. I was freaked out. But I had *barely* lost anything - just the sides of the front of my scalp started to recede... they had receded maybe 1/2" or 3/4" and as soon as I noticed it, I went online and did tons of research. Propecia and Rogaine are the only things that work and are approved. All the homeopathic stuff is just BS... if any of that stuff worked it would be submitted for FDA testing and marketed for a few bucks a pill just like Propecia.

As in all things, there is no shortage of people who *want* to believe something, so they do believe it. And there is no shortage of less-than-ethical shysters who will be happy to take your money and promise you their treatment will work, and when it doesn't work they will tell you that you applied it wrong, or you need more time, or some other reason.

Meanwhile, the poor guy suffering from hair loss is wasting time and money. The sooner you get ON propecia, the better results you will have. Propecia regrows hair at least as slowly as it falls out on it's own.

As for me, as I said I had about 3/4" of receded area at the corners of my forehead - I was just starting to develop the beginning of a horseshoe shaped hairline up front. I started on Propecia around a year ago. And today, my hairline is just about straight across. The area that had receded is not as thick as the rest, but it's only slightly thinner.

Every time I pick up my prescription at the pharmacy, I always hear "YOU take this? Why? You don't need it!?!?". And every hairdresser I've gone to in the past 6 months says the same thing... "no way, you aren't losing your hair, its all in your mind". I just smile.

I don't work for the company that makes Propecia or anything, I just know it works for a lot of guys - 45% of them get their hair back, and around 45% of them stop losing hair. If someone wants to screw around with salt baths and tea tree oil rubbed in their head or whatever, be my guest... but I know the feelings of dismay and sadness and paranoia about the future that most guys feel when losing their hair. And I have 0% of those feelings because I no longer have a problem with hair loss. And I don't experience any side effects (as most people don't), so I am just advising the guys who were like me that they should try what I tried and not to waste time on homeopathic or herbal or organic or whatever remedies that will do nothing but drain their wallet while they continue to lose hair.

I no longer check the mirror and pull my hair back to see how bad it's gotten. I no longer use a mirror to check my scalp to see if it's spreading. I no longer take pictures to gauge the rate of loss. I no longer worry about what I will look like in a year or in 5 or whatever. I used to worry about hair loss a lot - lying in bed thinking about it. I don't ever think about it anymore. It's just a complete non-issue to me. I have a complete and full head of hair. And really, isnt' that what we're all (those of us trying to do something about loss) trying to achieve? One pill, once a day, problem evaporates from your mind and will never concern you again. If you have major loss, it ain't gonna cut it, but as I presume William did, you can get a transplant and use Propecia to stop further loss.

Just my .02 and my attempt to steer guys right who had the same issue I did