What do u think of Hamilton?*spoilers*

I recall Coulthard moving over once -- I think in Japan, but it could have been another race. I remember a few times where Coulthard was 'difficult.' Once, I remember David punted Mika (at the Belgium GP, I think). Then he was passed by Shummi. I remember David's press conference "This is my nightmare scenario, I take out Mika and lose to the Ferrari.

As for Ron Rubber Di*k Dennis, I meant to say that he can ACT AS IF he has moral superiority because his guys race each other. I don't think he has it, it is just an act.

 

It's not to PROVE himself, it is to IMprove himself, to make him the full package. All he has at the moment is raw speed. He will not win WDC's with that alone.

The best champions have racecraft in spades (think Prost, Lauda, Stewart ... and MS's team) ... LH has little.
Pete

 

BS he has little...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5b8D0g0SmB0

He'll continue to get better with experience, HE'S ONLY IN HIS SECOND YEAR!!!!! I swear, some of you armchair know it alls are ridiculous, and you don't even realize it.

 

The greats always let their driving do the talking......all Lewis has to do is shut up and drive.

 

That mate is exactly what I said [improve means to get better ] ... but he should have gained that experience in a lesser team. McLaren are a top team that need to win, putting unnecesssary pressure on a very talented driver that needs to be able to gain that experience without over the top pressure.

Please read what I post before dribbling over your keyboard
Pete

 

Well I've seen some of your previous posts, so forgive my initial reaction. Anyways, going to Torro freaking Rosso isn't going to help. That would be career suicide, he'll sort it out.

 

Too late now ... I guess, but:

Alonso started in Minardi.
Kimi started in Sauber.
Massa started also in Sauber (I think)
MS started in a Jordan.

LH is the only person with so little experience that has started in a competitive car. It is a loose loose situation for the poor guy. Even when JV started in a Williams he came directly from CART, when CART was almost considered the equivalent to F1. Now unfortunately it is no where near that level.

In the end it was poor driver management ... heavily influenced by Bernie (to get British interest back into F1 and make $'s ... not caring about LH at all ).
Pete

 

I would say that he probably has untill well into next season to show what he can do on a consistant basis before he can be continually slammed. He can race but mostly from the front of the grid. I think the biggest pressure is coming from his Dad and not from the team. They should get his dad out of the pits and away from his little boy.

 

Has Michael Jordan/Tiger Woods syndrome...ultra competitive and thinks he has a right to be the champ. I'm certain that mentality is what's gotten him to where he is currently, but he does need to show more discretion in what he says. He is scoring low in the sportsmanship category.

 

+1...the guy is definitely good, he just needs to tone his act down.

 

Makes great reading this thread......

 

LOL! I cant wait to see who will step up and wipe the egg from there faces, especially when the guy emerges WC

 

Hamilton, world class driver that has shown through the races in the Rain who is the best driver in the world. If it wasn't for the teams Blunder in China last year he would have already had one WDC under his belt. What he did today and what he did at Monaco this year showed his all around abilities. So anybody want to compare him to his teammate HK again? The guy is the next great champion in the mold of Schumacher.

 

Seriously. I would love to see that "Armchair expert extraordinaire", PSK comment on this. Yeah, maybe Hamilton should go to Toro Rosso?? Stupid.

 

Sebastien Loeb...

 

+1

Well said.

 

Unfair comparison. Was not quicker than his teammates at Lemans a couple of years ago.

 

And they'd be quicker than him driving down an icy road in the alps in the Monte Carlo rally?

My personal opinion is that the top few WRC drivers are probably the best all-round drivers in the world.

Ian

 

Hamilton does have his flaws but that is the way it is with the greats. Someone brought up Tiger Woods and Jordan earlier and this kid has what it takes to be in that category.

He has won as much as any driver in the last 2 years. Why should he have to start in a lesser car? What does he have to learn that he doesn't already know.
People talk about his attitude but he has more endorsements than any other driver right now. Maybe one company would rather hire any other driver out there but the other 10,000 would take Hamilton in a heartbeat.
Someone also said he is too aggresive. He attacks from whatever position he has been in this year. He tries to pass everyone unlike most of the others. MS had that same mentality. Mistakes will be made but he still leads in points. Button is seasoned and he is stealing money. The only people half these drivers pass are the people in the stands.
The rapper comment was a low blow. Kimi sounds like a Yale graduate with a Ph.D. Kubica should be on GQ next month next to Brad Pitt.
He just has the IT factor going for him. I will always pull for Ferrari but Hamilton is alittle better than good at this stage of his career.

 

Unfortunately I did not watch the race, but from all accounts a good drive in a race where Ferrari made poor tactical decisions with Kimi (again).

Well done LH .
Pete

 

you have plenty to say as "another armchair critic" , did you get this off those morons on the ITV broadcast as well ??

PSK says a lot of things I disagree with but calling someone stupid because they suggest a newbie start at TR is ridiculous, everyone on this forum is entitled to THEIR opinion, even an "expert" such as your good self

look mum, I was right and PSK was wrong ... ner ner na nan ner

grow up

LH would have done well even at TR in the wet the way he was driving yesterday which would have underlined his great driving skill we ALL acknowledge, it's the bonehead mistakes he fails to take responsibility for that gets him lampooned by the Fleet Street press that flows down to the plebs and "armchair critics"

BTW PSK is a Kiwi so very unusual for an Aussie to defend that mob

 

First of all, there's a difference between starting at STR and then moving there after winning several races with Mclaren. Too bad you didn't pick up on that difference. Also, I wasn't calling him stupid, but I was saying that the idea of Hamilton moving to STR is stupid, there's another difference, too bad you didn't pick up on that one either.

 

I still stand by the FACT that LH would have benefitted MORE by starting in a lesser team than McLaren.

Pete
ps: Please try and read what I actually say. Note my view point is ON LH's side, as I want him to LEARN and become the master you all so naively believe he already is ... even MS took a season or so (actually quite a few) before he became the master. If MS had taken the dominant McLaren drive back then MS would never ever have become the brilliant driver he became. Instead he would only have had to use 80% of that skill and cruised to easy win after easy win ... hardly good for the sport and himself.

 

Mate,

I never said that! My point of view is simply that he started in the wrong team for HIM ... too late to change now.

Please don't mis-quote me
Pete
ps: And yes I've checked what I said and you keep making this mistake. To spell it out for you: LH would be a better driver than he is NOW, if he had NOT started in a McLaren but say a TR. He then would be ready to move to a competitive team like McLaren and make the most of it. As this mistake has already been made it is TOO late to fix it, LH will simply take longer to become a complete driver and may never reach his absolute peak . Easy wins in the best car don't challenge a driver.

 

Pete, not saying you're wrong but Pedro de La Pink said that Hamilton was rubbish on the Michelins . He wanted to race the last two races of 2006 but Ron kept Pedro in the racing seat because he was faster than Hamilton at the time.

IMO everyone expected Hamilton to learn the ropes the first year and play a good No.2 to Alonso but instead Lewis surprised everyone including Mr. Alonso with his performance last year starting with the first corner at Melbourne.

Looking back at last season his only mistake was fighting with Alonso in Brazil when he didn't need to. If it wasn't for that he would have been WDC .

He was under pressure from Alonso and Kimi all season and he handled it brilliantly. I think what he's missing this year is the lack of preassure from Alonso as a teammate. Remember Mika Hakkinen when MS broke his leg? I think it's the same with Hamilton this year.