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Bought a FLIP Ultra camcorder today

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  1. REMIX

    REMIX Two Time F1 World Champ

    #1 REMIX, Aug 17, 2008
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  2. TexasF355F1

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    And you're not going to share some video with us? ;)
     
  3. REMIX

    REMIX Two Time F1 World Champ

    Nuthin to share yet. Just real estate related so far.

    RMX
     
  4. jratcliff

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    Bought one for my daughter to take on her trip to Italy. She loves it. Very simple to use.

    John
     
  5. jeff

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    Why the "Flip" and not the "Mino"?
     
  6. REMIX

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    No Mino at Wally World.

    RMX
     
  7. WJHMH

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    I'm surprised Apple hasn't tried to make something like this yet.
     
  8. AustinMartin

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    Hows the video quality???
     
  9. REMIX

    REMIX Two Time F1 World Champ

    Not half bad. Perfect for what I need it for - uploading to YouTube and such. I will put it to the test this weekend at my gig.

    Here's a demo of the video quality: http://www.theflip.com/products_flip_ultra.shtml click on "picture perfect quality"

    The best part is how freaking fast I can plug this in and transfer a video to my laptop.

    RMX
     
  10. JasonMiller

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    Does it save as mpeg?
     
  11. ADON

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    The Mino looks like a cool little camera to play around with. Sucks that you can't have removable flash media. A USB flash memory adapter is only $15. Either way, it looks like a cool camera for skateboarders to have when cops are beating them up.
     
  12. WJHMH

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    Very impressive, do a search on youtube for this product. Outstanding video quality, this maybe the hot holiday item to look into.
     
  13. REMIX

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/technology/personaltech/20pogue.html

    Camcorder Brings Zen to the Shoot

    Well, this is a little embarrassing. One of the most significant electronics products of the year slipped into the market, became a mega-hit, changed its industry -- and I haven't reviewed it yet.

    In the year since its invention, the Flip has taken 13 percent of the camcorder market, according to its maker, Pure Digital. Its size and simplicity mean it can go where most camcorders can't.

    Lately, my guilt has deepened every time someone whips this thing out to show off. "Look what my first grader did with it all by herself," one guy told me. "We're using them in schools to teach narrative structure," said a teacher at a conference. "I bought two of 'em: one for my 80-year-old grandmother," said a neighbor, "and one for my 5-year-old."

    O.K., wait -- what?

    It's the Flip: a tiny, stripped-down video recorder the size of a digital camera (but you hold it vertically). And in the year since its invention, it has taken 13 percent of the camcorder market, according to its maker, Pure Digital. The latest model, called the Flip Ultra, had its debut six months ago with slightly improved video quality, greater capacity, a tripod mount and better looks (available in white, black, orange, pink and green). It's been the best-selling camcorder on Amazon.com since the day of its debut.

    Now, understanding the appeal of this machine will require you not just to open your mind, but to practically empty it. Because on paper, the Flip looks like a cheesy toy that no self-respecting geek would fool with, let alone a technology columnist.

    The screen is tiny (1.5 inches) and doesn't swing out for self-portraits. You can't snap still photos. There are no tapes or discs, so you must offload the videos to a computer when the memory is full (30 or 60 minutes of footage, depending on whether you buy the $150 or $180 model). There are no menus, no settings, no video light, no optical viewfinder, no special effects, no headphone jack, no high definition, no lens cap, no memory card. And there's no optical zoom -- only a 2X digital zoom that blows up and degrades the picture. Ouch.

    Instead, the Flip has been reduced to the purest essence of video capture. You turn it on, and it's ready to start filming in two seconds. You press the red button once to record (press hard -- it's a little balky) and once to stop. You press Play to review the video, and the Trash button to delete a clip.

    There it is: the entire user's manual.

    But come on -- 13 percent of the camcorder market? This limited little thing? What's going on here? Having finally lived with the Flip, I finally know the answer: it's a blast. It's always ready, always with you, always trustworthy. Instead of crippling this "camcorder," the simplicity elevates it. Comparisons with a real camcorder are nonsensical, because the Flip is something else altogether: it's the video equivalent of a Kodak point-and-shoot camera. It's the very definition of "less is more."

    The lesson is one that the electronics industry seems to miss over and over again: that creeping feature-itis often impairs your product instead of improving it. In the Flip's case, the size, shape, ruggedness, low price and one-button simplicity take it places where no real camcorder would go. Purses, coat pockets, beach bags. Skiing, playgrounds, house walk-throughs, museums, casual interviews, YouTube stunts, classrooms, airplanes -- and, with the $50 acrylic sealed case, even underwater. (Just about everywhere but live performances and sports; the zoom just isn't good enough.)

    The video and audio quality is surprisingly good -- not as sharp as a tape camcorder or even digital still cameras, but far superior to cellphone video. It has TV resolution (640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second), with softer images than you'd get with a real camcorder.

    The shocker is the Flip's low-light abilities, which trump even $1,000 camcorders. Not only is the video grain-free, but recorded dim scenes actually look brighter than they looked to your naked eye.

    Once you've shot a few scenes, you slide a button and -- sproing! -- a U.S.B. jack pops out at 90 degrees to the camera body. This, too, is part of the Zen of Flip. You're spared the hassle of storing, tracking and finding a U.S.B. cable.

    The entire thing, in other words, slips into your computer's U.S.B. jack. At this point, the Flip's icon appears on your screen as though it's a disk. If you open it, you find a folder full of video clips, which you can play, copy to your hard drive or edit in most standard editing programs. All of this requires, unfortunately, a one-time installation of a special codec (a video-format translator).

    But you know what else is on that Flip "disk" on your computer screen? An extremely basic video-editing program for Mac or Windows. It lets you shorten scenes, rearrange them, delete them and upload reduced-quality versions to YouTube or AOL Video, or send scaled-down versions by e-mail. A Movie Mix button adds cross fades and music, using its best judgment to produce a fast-cutting MTV-ish edit, but you can't add such elements manually.

    The Mac version of this program lets you rearrange your clips for playback, but you can't export the result, as you can on the Windows version. (Then again, you already have iMovie right on your computer; Flip video works great with iMovie 6, although not iMovie '08.)

    You can also attach the Flip directly to your TV using a cable that comes with it. The video is not DVD quality, but it's fine standard-TV quality.

    Alternatively, you can take your camera to many major CVS or Rite-Aid drugstores where they'll turn your footage into a DVD for $13. That's where you can also pick up a pair of AA batteries for your Flip. (Alkalines last 2 hours; rechargeable AA's manage about 5.)

    So why, exactly, does a machine that does so little earn so much love from the people who buy it?

    Funny story: years ago, Jeff Hawkins, founder of Palm, decided to develop the Graffiti handwriting-recognition alphabet for the original touch-screen Pilot. Since no technology can recognize everyone's handwriting, he reasoned, he'd design a special block-letter alphabet that gives you 100 percent accuracy -- if you form your letters his way.

    His employees thought it was a terrible idea. Make customers relearn the alphabet?

    But Hawkins, a brain scientist, knew something about people: if you're successful at something the first time you try, you fall instantly in love with it. And sure enough: people fell in love the first time they wrote on a Pilot with the special alphabet and saw their letters turn into perfectly typed text.

    That's how it is with devices like the Flip. They're so simple, mastery is immediate, and so is your sense of pride and happiness.

    Already, the Flip has imitators. Audiovox RCA licensed the technology and sells a $100 enhanced version called the RCA Small Wonder EZ201, with a flip-out screen, 30 minutes of storage and a memory-card expansion slot. Sony's Net Sharing Cam (the $150 NSC-GC1) is similarly shaped, but has a larger flip-out screen, card slot and rechargeable battery (but no built-in storage at all).

    Careful, though; even these enhancements are complications: more moving parts, more things to learn, more elements to track. Each additional feature nibbles away at that sense of mastery, that mental comfort zone. Same with digital cameras, whose movie modes also take good video: anything with modes is necessarily more complicated. If you've ever taken a still when you meant to capture video, or vice versa, you know this all too well.

    Somebody at Pure Digital must have sat through countless meetings, steadfastly refusing to cede any ground to the forces of feature creep. A juicy bonus, if not a lucrative speaking career at management seminars, is definitely in order.

    There. It feels good to have finally reviewed this groundbreaking little camera. Next week: My take on the new RCA Victor 8-Track Tape Player.
     
  14. taber

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    I have the original version, I took it snowboarding over the winter and shot some nice videos. The quality is way better than if I took my Canon SD800 in video mode, and you're right the best part is you just flip out the USB connector and plug it in and you can just put videos right onto your computer.
     
  15. JasonMiller

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    Just got one today! AMAZING.. I love this thing... I will keep it with me in my work truck...

    Maybe I can talk the wife into breaking it in tonight (.)(.)
     
  16. Bluehinder

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    Wife has one and loves it!
     
  17. REMIX

    REMIX Two Time F1 World Champ

    Here's a vid put together using the Flip. Not the greatest device in low light, but for a nightclub setting, the darkness isn't so much of a liability. I gave it to a random person, explained to them how it worked, went about my business...and viola!

    This is from my appearance in Tampa this past weekend:

    http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=42013110

    RMX
     
  18. Stackhouse

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    Very Cool..

    DEAR LORD MAN.. 33k+ Friends... Hell.. I dont think I have two friends on Myspace... I need either a Boob Job or start serving Alcohol !!!

    ;)
     

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