Guys I was just out for a drive... changed from 2nd to 3rd whilst driving with spirit and bang..... it seems like the cluth has gone?????? I coasted to a standstill & tried to engage gear but nothing? the clutch pedal seems to have dropped & is now very light... I turned the engine off & managed to get the car into 2nd gear.. restarted & coasted home, luckily I was only 1/2 a mile form the house.. with the engine off it just about slots into gear, but started nothing! Any ideas?
Perhaps just the clutch cable. I had one break on me once, I was in a parking lot had the car in gear with the clutch depressed and suddenly it lurched forward. It took a few seconds to realize what had happened and kill the engine. I'm not sure if I turned it off or just stalled it by applying the brake. Luckily there was nothing parked in front of me or I would have hit it. (but I guess I would not have had the car in a forward gear so maybe not)
Hi Not sure when the cable was last looked at? however the clutch & pressure place were changed 2 monts ago.... Having just gone and sat in the car, it seems that the clutch pedal has dropped? With the engine off I have to pull the pedal up a little & pump it several times then I am able to engage into 2nd, 3rd 4th 5th? If I do not pump the pedal it will not engage? the pedal has no pressure on it & feels sort off loose? it needs pumped to have any sort of pressure? Could this be the cable & where would you look first?
I thought the 328's had a hydraulic clutch activator rather than a cable, fed by the same HYD reservoir that feeds the brakes. No? If so, your problem MIGHT be a hydraulic leak though it could be a clutch failure. If "pumping" makes it work, then it's definitely hydraulic...
Hi... Thats what I thought, they have a hydraulic clutch? It went suddently when I was changing gear quickly? There is no visual fluid leeks? Where should I be looking? & what checks can I make?
Usually if you have no visual leak's on a hydraulic system and the pedal goes to the floor the seal's within the clutch cylinder have failed which from my personal experience is a simple o-ring fix via a rebuild kit with new gaskets.
So I guess that is a no on the cable inspection thing. Its really easy to look at Ricambi's web site, call up the shop manual and have a look at table 24 or 25 and see. It is table 31 in the early manual. That being said I own one, am factory trained on them and have been working on them since 1986. To the best of my memory it is a cable. The late 328 parts book does have a page that is incorrectly marked that says" Clutch Hydraulic system for cars with ABS", when in reality it shows the brake hydraulic system for cars with ABS.
your right... just checked the book.. cable self adjusting type clutch release system... cheers Would you have any idea what I have done? I was changing fast from 2nd-3rd & from what I can remember the pedal hit the floor & I could no longer engage gear? With the engine off & the pedal pumped it can move into the higher gears.. the pedal feels like it has no tension? Any idea's? What should I look for?
If it is a cable and it is broken then pumping would do nothing but if the car moves an inch or two the gears could line up. Are you certain that pumping the clutch is making a difference? Find one end of the cable and gently pull it. If it is broken I think it will come right out. Both ends are relatively easy to get to, you can just put your head down in the foot well and see the end that is attached to the clutch pedal. The other end would require you to get under the car but part of the clutch release mechanism can be seen even with the car on the ground. Most of the tension would normally come from the clutch it self. If the cable is broken it would be expected that there would be no tension.
Used to have a service manager that would tell customers " My Grandmother was 85 and died one day. She never did that before either". Sometimes stuff just gets old and breaks. But in the case of the clutch and throttle cables they frey first and regular inspection will catch it. Part of regular service. Crawl under the car, comfirm its broken and put in a new one.
Clutch cable. I heard mine "Ping" just like a piano string. Yo can confirm by pulling on cable under clutch pedal to see if it is slack. Usually breaks at pulley. There is a kit you can order ( I am thinking Ricambi) and was only around $300. Includes a new pulley and some springs. If you have a lift it is not that hard to fix. Seems as though I found a schematic on F Chat and one also comes with the kit.
Yes - the parts book refers to the 328's hyd clutch which is what I was referring to. But I just went out to look and, as stated by others, my 89 has a cable-operated clutch. Wonder why the parts book would say otherwise?
For the same reason that the 308 QV - 328 workshop manual AND the 328 Technical Specificaitons & Recalls manual both give the valve spring specs for a 2V engine instead of the correct specs for the 4V valve springs(ask me how I know). Also, the 308 QV - 328 WSM has the wrong valve clearance specs, found that out a couple of years ago when the numbers just didn't look right. Somebody in Ferrari blew it, or the English translator didn't understand what he was looking at. It boils down to the simple fact that the Ferrari documentation is somewhat less than the quality & accuracy you're used to finding in an American, Japanese, or German high volume auto mfg's technical documentation. In particular, the English translation from Italian in some of the manuals is pretty bad, in other manuals it's pretty good.
Other possibilitys are : - one of the pin's that holt the cable on place (clutch control lever- engineside) fel out. I think there are 3 such pin's ; - bolts on control lever inside that pushes the bearing are loose or fel out (just worked on the clutch resently) ; - pin that holt the cable on place on pedal fel out ; - cable fel of the sheave (nr 49) and has to much play now... Enzo52
Well it was not the cable that had broken or stretched..... It turned out to be the brand new pressure plate!!! Yes 2 wks & 200 miles old & it decided to shatter! with most getting lodged thus preventing any further movement in the housing!!!! As we speak the replacement system is being fitted & fingers crossed I will have the girl back tomorrow! Mind you it is pouring from the heavens here in the UK!!! Will post pics of the plate over the weekend!
So I guess we would all like to know the source of the failed pressure plate so we can consider that when we need to purchase one.
Thats a good one. I'm going to remember this quote when a patient asks why their tooth broke or a crown failed. It would even be true, my Grandmother did die at 85, RIP. Classic! Jeff
