USGP Good Possibility for 2010

If F1 were in Vegas, I would come. And I don't advocate Indy because I'm 4 hrs. away. I'm a fan of Indy because of the history that is Indy. I'm going next Thur-Fri. for the first ever Moto GP. If I was in the neighborhood I would stop and walk around the place on Tues. in December if they would let me. I would get a coffee and a newspaper and sit in turn 4 and look down that straight into 1.

 

The only places that make sense to me to have an F-1 in the USA is:

1. Indy - infrastructure is there and its FIA approved...

2. Long Beach street race, proven systems, but will need updated track and runoff....unlikely.... but has the location....etc...

3. Laguna Seca, but I dont think the Cork screw will work for F-1 ... safety wise, and it is a bit remote...

4. Road Atlanta, close to the big city, huge ease of travel, and has all the big hotels etc... downer is the track would need huge improvments and the Panoz guys would not be interested...

5. Watkins Glenn, but this would in reality be a real pipe dream, however with all the high speed choppers etc.. you could stay in NYC and chopper in every day... hotels etc... would be a problem... however with NASCAR having been there... the track would be easier to update.... extreemly long shot!

 

Has anybody thought about Daytona? The road course is certainly exciting and obviously the sports car racing history is there. I guess it would be a long shot but it would be great. Having raced at Road Atlanta a few times, I hope it gets some consideration. The track is very european in design and the Petit Le Mans race is second to none in the US.
Mike

 

Do you think Max & Bernie have Brian France on speed dial ?

 

Don't we have this thread every 3-4 months with the same results? Indy, its the only place that is ready and can afford the show. Not my favorite location, but so much better than not at all. The rest mentioned, do not cut the mustard.

 

If F1 teams are concerned about the 9 degrees of banking at Indy, I'm sure Daytona's 31 degrees would be out of the question. interesting concept though.

Road Atlanta or Barber would get my votes but I don't see either happening.

Ron is correct, Indy is the least bad solution. 3 hours from STL, too. I like that

 

Can anyone tell me where that saying, "cut the mustard" came from? It really makes no sense, yet I used it.

 

After work, the Ferrari mechanics would stop at this bar with the hottest mustard in the world. When some didn't want it on their sandwich it was said, "They couldn't cut the mustard."

 

You must be from Ohio, that is a bunch of BS.

 

Vegas keeps coming up and I will only say forget it. The powers that be don't want it, especially at the price Bernie exacts. Casino business is down and they sure don't want anything else to interfer with their customers. They hated the Champ Car race and a strip based F1 race would be worse for them. Besides, there are several construction projects that can't get money to finish and have stopped construction. Who and where would they build Bernie's garages and pits. As much as I hate to give Tony George any of my money, Indy is about the only place that can hold the race without a lot of money being spent to bring the track up to standards. I would just hope they would use the new configureation they built for Moto GP. It would eliminate the tire fiasco from 2005 since they wouldn't be using any of the oval's corners.

 

You are likely correct regarding the race at Vegas. With the economy nationwide in the toilet, and typically recession proof Vegas feeling the pinch now too, its unlikely anyone would be willing to bend to take a chance.

If the stars were all in alignment though, I think that something really amazing could be done there with alot of investment, cooperation, and dreamers.
I cant say I agree regarding the oval corner at Indy. I think that it really gives Indy character as a challenging track, and something distinctive over the European tracks. Using part of the oval just ties in the history of the brickyard unlike the mainstrait alone does. I say tell the wusses to get it together and build a car and tire that can take the whole track. If the low-budget IRL cars can make it, then there is no reason F1 cars cant. It was a total embarrassment when that happened, but not for all of F1, just the Michelin teams that couldnt hack it.

 

yep.

Vegas is just too hot. Remember Phoenix. what a disaster IMVHO.

 

Please, please, please Bernie make it a road course.
If in a Vegas parking lot or any city street course I will not attend. Indy is a Mickey Mouse course but near home so I might go back there.
Road Atlanta, Laguna Seca, Watkins Glen, Road America would be sooo nice.
I'm dreaming aren't I?

 

The first race on the new Indy road course is Moto GP this weekend. Going anti-clockwise with the Mickey Mouse area reconfigured.

 

The Daytona road course would be interesting as well as the CART street circuit in Miami...

 

Daytona works for me! that would allow SCCA Track Marshals! Yea it works for me.

 

Tell you one thing, no matter where I'm there!

 

Sure the Vegas economy isn't great, but the high roller market (ie: China) are not hurting and F1 does attract that crowd. Hey, casinos pay $20-$30 million to attract a big fight to their casino, why is this any different. They don't pay for a big fight because they like boxing, they think its worth it because it draws high rollers. Anyone that has been or lives in Vegas knows that the people throwing around money are the Asians, the USA crowd for the most part are nickle and dimeing things lately in the casinos, there are of course exceptions, but we all know who dominates the high roller areas. I don't think it matters that it would be a traffic nightmare, the high rollers are in the hotels and thats who they are aiming to please here, I don't think they care about the American who is renting the Chevy Colbalt complaining about traffic while he stays at the Imperial Palace.

 

You missed my post- "Do you think Max & Bernie have Brian France on speedial ?"

Also do you remember USGP 2005. Something about sustained tire wear on an oval. Big puffy white guy involved.

 

The tire issue can be fixed. There is a supplier for tires in F1 that did run the Indy F1 race.

 

Mosley?

 

No, No. Mosley was the concentration kamp guy, remember?

 

I keep hearing this nonsense about Indy being Mickey Mouse. None other than Michael Schumacher, and Mika Hakkinen both proclaimed the track "very well put together" and "a real challenge of slow speed corners and the final turn through the famous oval". Mickey Mouse? I dont know why it would be called that. The congenstion at turn one after the high-speed run from the mainstrait, (off of the oval section) always provided lots of excitement and challenge to the drivers. Further, the accelleration onto the short strait after turn 7 provided and interesting view into who had more or less downforce in their set-ups.
When I look at the track map with the obvious "oval avoidance section", all I can think is that when running anti-clockwise, they just ruined turn 1 just to avoid a challenge. Thanks again Michelin.

 

Daytona would be super fast!
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