When I first starting club racing you were supposed to only enter the track on a flag marshalls signal. Thus if you went off you could not return until a flaggy said so. It does actually annoy me how modern drivers consider the track to be anywhere their car happens to go and they will scream back off the grass or whatever and cause massive accidents to others. Pete
Yes, absolutely I understand, but then I was not strapped in a car with a fuel cell, crush zones in the bodywork, while wearing Nomex and a helmet, on a roadway with 20 other drivers that are supposed to be the best in the world. I was in Miami, dealing with a guy in a BMW with bald front tires and no insurance in the rain while sitting in an ancient Ferrari. Big difference. But here we are discussing race drivers that are overpaid millions $$$ to negotiate high speed turns like Eau Rouge and we are having trouble with them navigating a chicane??? Give me a "brake". I still favor putting up barriers around chicanes, as the dumbest of all the Hamilton excuses at Spa was that he could not brake in time to avoid Raikkonen. Let them hit the damn wall if theses guys are so bad a judging their braking at the end of a straight. So if some genius at the FIA thinks this stop and go penalty is good, and the drivers concur (can this crap about the FIA controlling these independent millionaire drivers) that this is a viable way to stop chicane cutting, then I am all for it.
I don't think that is the time line. My recollection of it is that the FIA came up with the 'no passing until after the next corner' solution after being asked to provide a clearer definition than 'give back the advantage gained'. It would be hard to imagine a solution more clear than 'give the position back and wait until after the next corner before trying again', so whatever the reason for the FIA's change of mind I doubt that it was because anyone thought the original solution was unclear.
Hi, I'm not sure that this "story" is actually true..... I would have thought that at least Hobbs & Matchett (SpeedTV talking heads for those outside the States BTW) would be all over it like a cheap suit. I've now watched all of P2, and it never came up........ I'm not saying it isn't the rule, just that I'm starting to doubt it. My (additional) 02c, Cheers, Ian
I dont think it is a rule and it really hasnt shown up on many good F1 sites as all changes do. Its funny how so many took the ball and ran with it here.
Yeh, and if it is a joke, who's going to look dafter, surely not the ones that agreed with it!!.............................
Seriously, and I said this back in post #3: "Will they throw a yellow as the guy slows down to a stop and then takes off again? - If a car broke down and stopped in these locations they certainly would." As far as I've noticed, nobody commented..... Which says either: a. Nobody reads my posts or b. Nobody had any idea! All will be revealed in due course no doubt. BTW, I *really* like the look of the cars under the lights - Very, very cool IMHO [And there's gonna be some serious polishing going on to remove "the mechanics paw prints" to quote Matchett......] Cheers, Ian PS - Even if it turns out to be untrue, an interesting thread nonetheless.
I have an idea. Instead of punishing offending driver(s) thereby ruining their race (and the fan), how about every driver is allowed to cut each chicane/runoff 3 times during the race. Then it's equal for everyone. Beyond 3 times, you are DQ'd.
Hehe, A funny thread indeed, I'm wondering what Mike has got to say about it, I read your post Ian, don't feel ignored mate you talk 100% common sense. I find it funny that anything that comes out off or quoted by the FIA, mainly that toss pot Max, can be believed by some on here. Apparently on the whole the drivers are liking the street track, just some complaints about it being bumpy and a tricky pit lane entry. One lap around here is like two laps of Monaco!"!!!
neat idea BUT, have you seen the Chicanes in Singapore???? there are walls there!!!! like they come to a complete stop anyway. a rule to state the obvious. great.
Because at a place like Monza, the straights are very long and IMHO it would be too long to wait to make the pass. Imagine if a front runner missed the chicane behind the slowest car on the grid. He would lose a ton of time on a long straight waiting to pass. I like the styrofoam chicane solution, where possible.
This new rule has not appeared in Autosport. So I wonder if it s real. Was it mentioned on the SpeedTV broadcast of qualifying?
Nope. I was waiting to hear something about it on TV but no one said a word. My wife was pissed that I had the volume pretty high this early in the morning
FIA have confirmed the new rule, and added that it applies to Lewis Hamilton and to Lewis Hamilton only.
Nope. And Lewis cut a chicane during qualifying without stopping. But that's Lewis. Hopefully, he's got it out of his system now.
Did anyone hear the annonuncers on any broadcast discuss this new rule, it is after all pretty significant? Nor has it yet appeared in Autosport. To me, if it has not appeared in Autosport, it is still a rumor.
I think it's a busted myth, by now. Nobody stopped in the chicane all weekend. (In the wall right afterwards, yes; but in the chicane: no.)
I was waiting to hear about it by the commentators but nothing, thank god. That would have been rediculous.