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The Official Enzo Replacement Thread

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by novitec2007, Jan 29, 2008.

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  1. big.bryant

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  2. Ferrarista3

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    #302 Ferrarista3, Sep 25, 2008
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    It was supposedly sent to a Chinese dealership. That's why it's in English. After seeing the actual letter, however, I have no doubts it's fake.

    From what I understand the Veyron is a pig (very heavy and not exactly a track car)...one that is fast in a straight line albeit. Horsepower is a relative value. What counts is the power to weight ratio. Straight line acceleration is only one ingredient. I doubt the upcoming 1300bhp Veyron will trouble Ferrari's next supercar on a track.
     
  3. FerrariF1v12

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    The Enzo has the Veyron in check on track already.I know about the whole power to weight,as I am an F1 nut,and track balance is top priority for me.But still,we're champs on track so why not make the "F60" with all superlatives.
     
  4. modena1_2003

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    The main thing to know about the automotive industry is to never believe anything you hear without a direct quotable artical from an official or some really damn good pictures.

    My eyebrow is still raised.



    _J
     
  5. Infinity_Racer

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    couldn't have said that any better...
     
  6. bbsouth

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    Obviously the work of one Nigel Stepney--a parting shot before the Carabinieri take him away.
     
  7. ZiadR

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    Didn't Ferrari say that they will use only naturally aspirated engines in their future models?
     
  8. Ferrari_Michael

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    #308 Ferrari_Michael, Oct 12, 2008
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    Starting this thread as I know it has been built, all the legals are being sorted, DOT regulation requirement, EURO status, crach testing ect. I know minor details, but nothing hard. Shall we see if we can come together with all our knowledge to build the car mentally before Ferrari release it.

    What I know

    3.5l V8 BiTurbo, very lightweight...

    Not much, but I have also seen the F430 replacment, also fitted with the same engine, just not TT. Interesting eh?

    Mike

    EDIT: Oh, release late 2009
     
  9. Napolis

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    You know this? I guess your sources must be better than mine. My sources, and I spoke to them this weekend tell me that none of what you posted is true.
     
  10. Napolis

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    Some more than others.
     
  11. CRG125

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    Horse power and when you say lightweight, are we talking about 2300-2500lb?
     
  12. CRG125

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    Any idea on when the 430 replacement is coming?
     
  13. Fenivision

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    Hmm .. I'm pretty new to this forum, but I think I would trust Napolis and his sources .... as long as he is willing to share it.
     
  14. SSNISTR

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    I'm hoping for a lightweight (less then 3000 pounds), intercooled twin turbocharged V8.



    ....reminds me of another iconic supercar....
     
  15. Ferrari_Michael

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    Whoops, looks like I have upset someone.

    I retract all previous statments, I fully express full knowledge that the information I provided, is, to the best of my knowledge, at best, unconfirmed roumors.

    Best
    Michael James
     
  16. MGD416

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    interesting stuff mike, thanks for sharing

    lighter and lower displacement, I love it
     
  17. judge4re

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    My well placed sources (independent of those Napolis referred to) also lead me to believe this is all BS...
     
  18. Ferrari_Michael

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    Most probably is.

    Mike James
     
  19. Napolis

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    It is total BS. The Enzo replacement is years away. Years. The posts on the 430's replacement's engine are also wrong. It is not 3.5L.
     
  20. Ferrari_Michael

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    Be sure Napolis.
    I may have the capacity wrong, forgive me, but I am 100% confident of the rest.

    Mike James
     
  21. modena

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    So the 430 and Enzo replacements will both have the same 3.5l engine? I'll believe it when I see it...
     
  22. Napolis

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    Good Move.
     
  23. TurboFreak650

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    It wouldn't be too difficult to forge such a document for one's own amusement. I have a hard time believing Ferrari is interested in a turbo road car as the next top dog, a large NA V-12 is the usual weapon of choice. I have consistently heard that the next hyper car will be very light however, which is very exciting, because light weight solves most all problems. If they go with a somewhat smaller V-12 a la the F50, they had best make the car VERY light and have the V-12 rev like there is no tomorrow. I can hardly imagine how deadly the F1 shift and launch control will be by the time the "F70" comes out!
     
  24. Fenivision

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    Also very interesting is the fact, that they state 50ms shift time for a double clutch transmission. IIRC correctly the gearbox in the Scud takes 60ms to shift (in any direction) and is quite a bit lighter (close to half) than DSG boxes.
    I already enjoy 8ms upshift times on my cheapo VW GTI :D (Yeah, I know unexpected downshifts can take forever)

    And why would LdM write a letter to the research department that has all the information in it? Is he reminding the research department? :D
     
  25. Dipsomaniac

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    Furthermore, why would it be in English? I guess the answer is; a real letter wouldn't be.
     

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