Button insists he is better at driving a bad car than Hamilton

The problem, Jenson made a choice to stick to Honda thinking the amount of money they have would see him right into a front running car, not the case! I can't believe how backwards they have gone, the trouble is IMO he is a very good driver, but it maybe to late now to show it, I just hope next year he has a car capable of winning a race.

 

It can only be proved if McLaren builds a slug one year, lol. It could happen, the 06 McLaren was crap. You're right, he did look mighty impressive in the lower formula, but again he had top equipment all of the time. Also, if I remember right, when he had the falling out with McLaren in 04 and almost signed with Williams, what held the deal up was that BMW wouldn't fund his career in the lower formula. He's obviously postioned himself to never have to drive a sub-standard car.

 

Thinking about it, it will be the team that gets KERS working the best, and Honda should be a good bet, so you could say Button, Button it, and hope they do get it right.

 

Yes it's quite possible they can build a crap car, it was about the time they were building that impressive tech centre, the car went down hill I think, since it's been up and running I think they are getting the rewards from it now.
I remember LH or his dad fell out with Ron, but not quite sure what the problem was, maybe RD was holding him back, interesting though, BMW you maybe right with that.

 

There are drivers that are awesome at car development, Alex Wurtz and Pedro De La Rosa come to mind, but never quite cut it in the race seat. Also there are drivers that are awesome during the race but don't give great feedback and really counted on the test team for most of the car development, Kimi, JPM and Mansell (Not totally sure about Mansell, I've heard conflicting stories) for example. The true greats could do it all themselves, Senna, Prost, Schumacher, Alonso, etc. Right now it's hard to tell what mold Hamilton fits in.

 

I thought the world of Button when he first came up...and so did the British press. He was very quick and he put JV on the trailer routinely. He got stuck with a mediocre ride and made a poor career decision... and is now forever swimming up stream in the mediocrity of F1. It's a shame, but a reality for Button. All of his eggs are in the Honda basket now and all he can do is hope. He's not getting any younger. As far as the Hami comparison, Button maybe right, but we will never know the answer to that question at this point in both of their careers. Hami is quick and has been impressive at times. But he has made numerous rookie mistakes and he has had the advantage of driving for a top tier team that assisted him in masking some of those mistakes. I think the man who has really proved himself as worthy and an exceptional talent driving for a mediocre team has been Vettel. I have been more impressed with him than either Hami or Button. Still, Button would better serve himself by keeping his mouth shut. The problem is, he can't let his driving do the talking for him.

 

+1 well put

 

Maybe Button meant he's "better at racing a car badly" than Lewis. That'd make more sense.

All jokes aside, Button, put up or shut up. You're rapidly becoming another Coulthard - nay, even he had more to show by this point in his career.

 

You guys are being a little easy on a guy who spews this BS from his arse. LH can say something to this effect and while being taken out of context, he becomes the sourge of the earth.

Hey Buttox, go over to Top Gear and see if they'll let you take the "reasonably priced car" for a few laps ... Oh, you did, and you got beat there too

GMAFB

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Get the BBQ sauce ready.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear_Test_Track

They ran the same time in the Liana, hammy's lap was "wet and oily" Oily? Oh come on, and Jenson's was very hot...1:44.7

 

Comparing Button to DC is giving DC too much credit. DC had a top tier F1 ride flubbed his dub with that opportunity.

 

You know, it's kind of like me saying I'm better at living poorly than Bill Gates...

 

He is such a dumbass, does he really think Lewis Hamilton couldn't have scored more than 3 points all year in his car. Lewis Hamilton has done some amazing stuff this year, three seconds a lap faster than everyone at the British GP, got screwed by the pit stop strategy and safety car in Germany so overtook everyone in front of him to win. What did Button do? Got dominated by a second rate over-the-hill driver. A lot of people are speculating on who will partner Button next year, but I really think Button is on the way out. Rubens and a rookie, thats a good combination.

 

LH can talk all the crap he wants because at the end of the day, he performs on raceday.

Button's comments are just ridiculous!!!!! At least he gets more press from his talking than he does with his racing.

 

Maybe it was a crap car THIS year and only Lewis's brilliant driving got the job done. If Lewis had been on a par with HK this season McLaren would have achieved nothing and we might well have been suggesting it was only a mid-field car.

 

I was out working at the HSR race in Daytona International. AAAh you missed me.

 

mmm...what Jenson is saying pretty much makes sense.

 

There's some truth in there. With the current development rate in F1 Lewis could no longer rely on the development work done in 2007 (by Alonso as some say). He was consistently fast so this would imply that he does know how to develop a car (and keep it competitive). Unless it was Heikki who did all the development but that's hard to believe judging his results on track.

 

Keep it up Jens. You'll be able to hone your skills in even worse cars.

 

Lol, nice try but the McLaren was usually the smoothest, best handling car out there this year. It went over bumps better than the Ferrari and had plenty of power. I think it was more down to HK always having to qualify with a heavier fuel load than Hamilton. The one race that he wasn't heavier he got pole.

 

I believe the term is "Legendary"

 

I'd have to agree with Alex, I think it was down to DeLaRosa, DiResta and test team's work more than Hamilton's. He only tested a handful of times during the year if I remember right.

 

Well, Jack Villeneuve jumped in a great car and won.

Damon Hill jumped in a great car and won.

Hamilton jumped in a great car and won, I have no problem with that.

But if 'mediocre' drivers can jump in a great car and win, please explain to me Heikki Kovalainen ? Should he not have won also, and finished at least second in points ?

 

See this thread for a possible reason,


http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=219298

There is no such thing as equal drivers at McLaren regardless of what Ron Dennis says.