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1986 328 gts broken timing belt help

Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by aurora, Nov 8, 2008.

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  1. andy308

    andy308 Formula 3

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    You might also want to fill out your profile so we know where you are, may help on this problem and some in the future.

    Best.
     
  2. aurora

    aurora Rookie

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    #27 aurora, Nov 18, 2008
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  3. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    *shaking head sadly*


    That's a pretty sad belt, alright..........
     
  4. Tinbender

    Tinbender Formula Junior
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    Is there a date code on the belts?
     
  5. Beta Scorpion

    Beta Scorpion Formula 3

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    Doesn't look like a primary timing belt failure based on the pictures. Is it broken? Teeth just don't 'dissolve' like that. Those teeth look like they were scrapped off by in intimate contact with a non-moving part.

    (opinion only--based on the picture posted)
     
  6. aurora

    aurora Rookie

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    I finally got the engine out, as soon as I gets the heads off I will post pics of the valves on bank 1-4, not an easy task removing the motor out of this paticular model.

    I am concerned about what caused the belt to go like that, I did inspect the broken belt and if you bend the belt you can see cracks. engine will also have to be resealed as there are alot of oil leaks.
     
  7. st@ven

    st@ven F1 Rookie

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    it's a ferrari dude, they supposed to :):)

    but obvious, while you have the engine out, lots of things can be done much easier so just convince your costumer of the need of solving more little issues while your at it.
     
  8. 430tdf

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    #33 430tdf, Nov 21, 2008
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    I had a similar problem a few years back but in my case the belt tensioner bearing seized up and burnt thru the belt. The ****ty part was that all service was being performed as per Ferraris schedule and the belts had been replaced 2 years previous along with all the other items required on a major service.

    As you have discovered Yes you have to pull the head because you will have bent valves! And I would also recommend that while the motor is out you pull the other head and do the valve guides and seats on it or you will have a motor with great compression and sealing on one side and not quite so good on the other.

    Also you should be aware that there is a special procedure for torqueing the heads, and be prepared for the possibility that some of the studs stretching past spec and not being able to achieve proper torque so you might want to consider replacing all of the head studs while you are at it. And yes I have been there.

    Like Rifledriver the shop doing the work did a sloppy repair job, and the car never ran properly after. Five years and 800 miles latter I now have the car at an independent and after checking the car over we decided to pull the motor again, oil and antifreeze leaking everywhere.

    Current tally is $10,000.00 in parts and no idea as to labor.

    By the way I have owned my 86 328gts from new and always serviced it as scheduled in the manual.

    Welcome to the world of Ferrari, not cheap!
     
  9. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Don't bother with Ferrari head studs. ARP are better and cheaper.
     
  10. aurora

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    #35 aurora, Dec 4, 2008
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  11. RGigante

    RGigante F1 Rookie
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    Aurora, no more news (and pictures) about this ?
     
  12. irondogmike

    irondogmike F1 Rookie

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    if the engine was serviced right on reg. bases no engine should leak,I've had my 308 for nearly 2 years and some spots after 6 months of bringing her home due for a service last may and since still no leaks,but I do drive it alot to keep her lubed...she has 54k miles on the clock
     
  13. aurora

    aurora Rookie

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    No, we are in limbo with the car, still waiting for the owner to come up with money for the valve job, I am frustrated because had I known it would be taking this long I would have argued against removing the engine, I have a ton of parts to put back on, I have them all marked and situated but jsut getting annoyed at the long delay.
     
  14. parkerfe

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    To inform FChatters as well as help you inform this and future customers how to minimize the risk of a broken cam belt, please request that the owner answer a few questions and post his answers: 1) when was the last cam belt service; 2) were the cam belt tensioners replaced at that last cam belt service; 3) how frequently, such as times per month, did he drive his car; 4) how many ~miles did he drive on each occasion he drove(did he get the engine temp up to operating condition each of those times); 7) had he noticed any other than normal engine sounds lately; and 8) had he noticed any oil leaks or smell of burning oil lately. I'm sure others can think of other questions that answered would help minimize future broken cam belt(s)
     

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