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LH 355 head light not lifting.

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  1. James-NZ

    James-NZ F1 Veteran

    Jun 26, 2007
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    Hi guy's, I have done a search and read up about the fuse, relays and headlight diodes on the motor, I have checked the fuses and swapped the relay's and still no lift on the left headlight. I have also tried the test where you turn the lift knob on top of the motor while the lights are on, this is suposed to override something and the headlight will lift, this is not the case here and the motor is not running. I am about to remove the motor now so will report back once that is done.

    On a side note, the little arm with the ball fittings at each end which lifts the headlight and adjusts the position, was apart, where the thread meets the plastic ball end it looks to have striped the thread, I fitted it back together but still have no lift, from the look of it the motor is not running, I will know more once I have it out.

    Does this sound like a headlight diode problem? Seems slightly different to what I have read.

    All help I appreciated. :)
     
  2. saw1998

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    #2 saw1998, Nov 29, 2008
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    James, sorry for your trouble. Hope it turns out to be a simple fix. Here's the Ricambi link for the entire "stripped" connecting rod assembly (i.e., threaded rod, 2 end Heim joints, nuts, etc.). LINK: http://www.ricambiamerica.com/product_info.php?products_id=232721. Not bad, it's only $41.00 USD. If it is the motor, you can get it rebuilt or brand new their only $241.00 (not too bad for a Ferrari part). Good luck, brother.

    Somewhere I have a protocol for fixing the electronics in Ferrari headlight motors, but it's for the 308/328. Sorry.
     
  3. James-NZ

    James-NZ F1 Veteran

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    Thanks Scott, turns out it was a simple fix. :eek:

    I removed the L/H headlight motor and wired it up to the R/H side wiring, retested the headlight and the motor ran, perplexed by this I went back to the beginning and rechecked the fuses, turns out I must have checked the wrong fuse :eek:, not good given my occupation, but after refitting the motor back into the car and making an adjustment to the lifting rod it is all back together and runs perfectly. So no real drama.

    I will order a new lift rod on my next order and install it later, the one fitted currently would probably hold for ever but I know it's not right.

    Sunny and hot here today, I'm off for a drive! :D
     
  4. PAP 348

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    Nice fix James!! :p:p

    Enjoy your drive brother!! :D:D

    I went for a nice drive yesterday. Took one of my Dad's mates Eddie for a drive. He got some wheel time also. ;);)
     
  5. saw1998

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    GREAT! I'm glad it was an easy, non-expensive fix.
     
  6. cavlino

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    Nice to read another happy ending based on help from this site.
     
  7. CT 328 GTS

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    I was told I needed a new driver's side headlight motor for my 355. Who sells them???
     
  8. James-NZ

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    #8 James-NZ, Dec 1, 2008
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  9. saw1998

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  10. saw1998

    saw1998 F1 Veteran

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    James:

    In one weekend you put 3X the mileage on your car, than I have in 8 months. Pretty sad, huh! You're just a "driven' fool"! LOL
     
  11. James-NZ

    James-NZ F1 Veteran

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    There is only one thing I can say to that, why aren't you driving your car?
     
  12. PAP 348

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    1000 km!!! WOW! :D:D

    Great to hear you are enjoying it mate!! :):)
     
  13. Lucky355F1

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    The dealer said told me I should change "both" my head light lift motors. My LH head light motor has been eating up fuses. This has started since the temperature has stared to drop. Some where along in its life the previous owner had installed 10A ones vice 7.5A. I have not really had time to troubleshoot it yet. I will disassemble it and relubricate it with extreme low temperature grease. Has anyone had this type of problem before? I've search for threads and have not seen one like this
     
  14. pino

    pino Karting

    Nov 1, 2003
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    My right motor does this occasionally when it is colder than 35º. Blows the fuse when closing the headlight (i.e. returning from a cold drive). Only happens about once a year, though.
    Any other time it just lifts/lowers more slowly than the left motor. I've reached the same conclusion as you, re-lubricate with better grease. Just never gotten around to it.
    If you decide to go this route, please document. I'm sure the community would appreciate it!
    Good luck!
     
  15. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
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    Yes, my car started doing this once or twice each winter a couple years ago, and only on the right side. Annoying, my simple fix was also to install a 10A fuse for the right side motor as well. Again, only happens in winter, when turning the lights on. The 10A fuse has been installed for over one year now, with no negative consequences. I too, would prefer to fix whatever is the problem with it, just have not got around to removing it. Like you surmise, probably the grease is getting hard.

    The dealer fix is always parts replacement, rarely can anyone fix or repair anything. I have seen on this site very nice, and quality repairs peformed on 355's for headlight motors (diodes and lifting arms), window regulators that have busted welds, adjusting exhaust bypass valve to eliminate rattle, resurfacing fly wheels, and refinishing A/C control panels. All stuff the typical dealer would simply replace with new, and likely break again. Heck, a good friend of mine (and fellow 355 owner) machined a new "paddle" arm for my drivers side door handle that broke. It was originally from cast pot metal, he designed on new one in AutoCad and machined it on his CNC and made it out of aircraft aluminum! :) It is truly BETTER THAN NEW.
     
  16. James-NZ

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    The headlight motor is easy to get out guys, took me about 10 min to have it out. :)
     
  17. pino

    pino Karting

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    Do tell!

    Does it come out from the top, side, or bottom?
     
  18. James-NZ

    James-NZ F1 Veteran

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    Comes out the bottom.

    Jack car up.

    Place jack stand securely.

    Unscrew and remove under tray.

    Using flash/lead light identify 3 bolts holding the motor in place, the connecting arm and the wiring harness/plug.

    Remove the wiring harness/plug from the motor unit.

    Unclip lift arm

    Unbolt 3 bolts, last one be careful, don't let the unit drop on your head.

    It really is a simple thing. Your results may vary.

    :)
     
  19. pino

    pino Karting

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    Grazie!
     
  20. James-NZ

    James-NZ F1 Veteran

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    No problema :D
     
  21. gothspeed

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    .......... your are living the life James!!! That is a great pic :)!!!
     
  22. James-NZ

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    Thank you Oz, I like your avatar too ;)
     
  23. TRScotty

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    #23 TRScotty, Dec 6, 2008
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2008
    I am so thankful for the wealth of knowledge here.

    Last night, my car failed me for the first time with this silly headlight issue.

    Made me feel a bit foolish, as my wife and I were heading out to a party.
    I began my usual warm-up ritual and as the babysitter was moving her car, I reach to turn on the lights and the right one stayed put! The babysitter looked at me and said "that isn't good". :(

    Now I'll be putting James' solution to the test with mine. Thanks guys for quieting my fear of a $1,000.00 headlight fix!!!!
    It has been quite cold here lately, that is all that I could imagine has happened, and seems somewhat problematic with this model.
     
  24. James-NZ

    James-NZ F1 Veteran

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    How did you get on Scotty?

    Start with the fuses ;)
     
  25. TRScotty

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    Haven't got it sorted yet.

    I have to look at my manual to find the fuse block.
    Is there any way I can do this without lifting the car??

    Too much work to spend the needed time on the car right now :(
     

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