A date with an American women: The first question: "What do you do?" If you give an answer that doesn't involve $, your screwed.
A date with an American women: The first question: "What do you do?" If you give an answer that doesn't involve $, your screwed My winning reply has been, What ever I want to do.
NO....... The answer is, "I'm in ladies underwear. I've had a good year so far. I've pulled down almost 500!" 3/4 of the idiots you date will believe it. For the occasional "UH HUH" just tell them, "No, seriously, I own a lingerie factory in Indonesia" Then you're in.
heh, tell me about it. I had the best view EVER at the 07 silverstone grand prix. These two brazillian chicks (...and their boyfriends, doh) where sitting right in front of me and my friend all day. Stared more at her than at the cars nearly. Best ass ever I decided that day, big bonus that she was wearing a mega short skirt, ferrari top and a red thong also. Now where are those pictures...
Exactly!!!! And then telling them what I do (machine shop owner/engine builder) they automatically think I'm an illiterate grease monkey. Then, if it goes far enough as to where you live, if you don't live in the big city, you're pinned as a hillbilly.
Post those pictures up!!! I dated a brazilian chick a few years ago, on our 2nd date I found out her brother in law used to be president of Lola Cars International, and at the time owned a 2 car team in the Champ Car World Series. She was really nice, just kind of a big girl. Now I'm dating another brazilian, she is 42 and has a nicer body than any of the girls I ever dated in high school. They breed them nice down there.
Weird, I don't have this gold-digging problem with American chicks. They seem normal enough, but my issue is that they are very homely and ethnocentric and bore me to tears. Zero desire to travel beyond US borders, learn a foreign language, or do anything fun. They don't want to ski, play sports, try exotic dishes, talk about anything besides TV shows and hiphop music, etc. You watch Jeopardy with them, and they go blank. You do simple math in your head (like, figure out sales tax on something) and they look at you like you are from Mars. WTF? Who raises these retards? I am dating a Japanese girl at the moment. Been together 18 months. Very sure she is the one--I am just concerned about how things might change with time, after marriage--living together for a while should address that. She runs 10 miles with me, holding hands the whole time. Plays tennis, bikes, loves animals, kids, loves to learn, loves to teach, etc., etc. She will do anything for me, but inspires me to cook and do other things for her. It's sad that there aren't more women like her in the US, because every buddy of mine who is single would be very, very happy to have a girlfriend like her. And they are all great guys, I am sure they would make the chicks very happy too. Seriously considering setting up matchmaking trips to help out people like this.
Have you seen what the US education system has become ? If anybody asks I tell them I am an underwear model or I design socks or something goofy like that when they ask what I drive I say Chevy if they ask where I live I say under a bridge in a cardboard box
I have a wife from Chongqing also, 14 years younger than me. yes I am old and scruffy and poor when I met her. Have been married 8 years and have a year old daughter. I am self employed and she does the books for me, I can account for every penny that I make through the business. My wife goes out shopping and phones me to ask if it is OK to buy some clothing, shoes etc, I say yes, she comes home with the items and says if i don't like them she will take them back. I go shopping with her and she looks at something she likes I tell her to buy it, she refuses saying it is too expensive. She will then look at something similar but less expensive, she hates spending money on anything for herself. Back to the topic, most Asian women looking for a husband have been stung by their ex or old boyfriend that have fooled around. The asian women prefer older men because of maturity better behavior towards their spouses. In China the culture is different(same in spanish countries) male is number one. You see that by the one child policy in China, males preferred to females for offspring for carrying on the family farm, business, name etc. Women are less than desired for offspring. (side note here) Asia is now experiencing that tradition is failing them now( more men than women/ almost 3 to 1) Slim picking for a chance of marriage or family for most. North american men on the most part are more attentive and seek a partnership in a marriage, where in asian culture it is a convenience of sorts. Just like in Japan, the husband's job is to make money and expected due to culture to go out drinking and eating in the evening after work to secure his job or he will lose favour with the boss. Also most of them keep a woman as a lover, pay for their apartment and shower them with gifts. It is a game in China for some women to have a few lovers to cash in from each of them. It is their retirement. The wife on the other hand is their stability and it is expected for a businessman to have a wife and family but also a lover, to show he is in charge for his life and finances. So yes the Asian women like the company of an older gentleman who is more mature and settled. Asian women find north american average joe more appealing than the hollywood cookie cutter man(they believe that they are players) Also the grass is greener on the other side of the fence. They would rather be in other countries that their own for many reasons, Quality of life More freedom of expression Cleaner Air Less censorship More than one child Affordability of cars. Able to have a house and a yard around it. Camping Traveling to other countries more easily. Less population to than their own Safer on the streets than their own Safer schools for their children The list goes on... We see them from our perspective and our cultural background without knowledge of theirs. They do the same with us that is why they think it is so easy to become rich in America, lack of knowledge. Just my 2 cents
Very interesting post. How are Western European woman (UK, Ireland, Germany, France, Switzerland, ect.) in comparsion to US woman?
Interesting viewpoints. Here's what I can add.. RE: American Women. You know, I see some good looking successful and smart women, but they are harder to find in the USA than a needle in a haystack. I have a friend who is BEAUTIFUL. Absolutely gorgeous. I thought she was "the one". She likes me a lot, but every time I spend time with her, I just want to run. She is dumb as a box of rocks. She is also really tied up in her appearance and cares a lot about how much money men make and what kind of car they drive, etc. She can have any man she wants, because she looks good and all these moronic dudes will do anything for her. She seems to take on the role of the eye-candy tropy girlfriend and it just doesn't play well with me. She has no shortage of muscle-bound dudes who are personal trainers or whatever, but she's 26 and still single, but with a horde of about 50 guys constantly trying to get with her. RE: European women. The problem with the USA women is that in America, it's not cool to be smart. It's expected for pretty women to be cool so there is pressure to be stupid. They don't need to learn anything and it's generally considered a bad trait by most jocks for a woman to be pretty and smart. Not the same in Europe. Over there, being smart is analogous to being cool. Being the smart kid in class there is like being the head cheerleader here. It's not uncommon to meet a really nice looking woman who is also a doctor or a lawyer or a scientist. You just don't see that in the USA. The only problem, and I say this delicately... is that there can often be a very money-centric attitude there. In Russia, a lot of men treat women like meat, but in return, a LOT of women treat men like an ATM machine. Also, people are people... if some 45 year old guy marries a 25 year old woman, well, once she gets here she is going to turn into a 25-year old woman. She's going to realize she can do a lot better and she will. The exception would be a really rich guy but then she's only with you for the money... some guys can handle that, but most real people prefer actual love at some point. RE: Asian women. I am really interested to read what you guys have to say. I have dated Asian-American women but I've got no real experience with ones who are actually from Asia. I had a really good Chinese friend that I met in an airport in Denmark...we kept in touch and considered meeting romantically, but in the end I broke things off. Too bad because she was really beautiful and seemed so nice. The thing that "concerns" me is that all Asian women seem to be good, true, pure of heart with good morals, etc, etc. But Russian women usually put up the same front and many of them ain't So you guys with experience in Chinese culture, what are the young women really like? A recurring theme from my Asian friends who've lived there is that the men don't respect the women at all. But with a 3:1 man:woman ratio, you'd think the women can have their pick with 3 guys competing for each of them. Are some of these young Asian women out there humping around and playing the guys for the $$? Not to say all people from one culture are bad or good, of course I know it varies, but there are generalities that we can make, IMO. So I am really interested to know about Asian culture...
IMO Nice accents, sexually more adventurous but also more casual about it, more worldly and well-traveled, but I find them *****y and materialistic. Not in the sense of wanting things as much, but in terms of always adding up what you make, how much you have, how it compares to others, etc. Definitely got a sense of "What have you done for me lately." They also tend to look down on Americans, even though they know the standard of living is much higher here. They *love* eastern cultures. And sunshine. Based on girlfriends from: Switzerland X 2 (one was very nice), Holland, Scotland (best accent ever), England (very complicated and class-conscious with a zillion hang-ups), Sweden, Denmark, French X 3, German X 2 (were the nicest). Would be interesed in others' experiences. And I believe Spanish, Italian, Portugese would be nicer.
Having lived in most of those places, I would say the main difference is that women there generally don't have the "I am pretty so I'm supposed to be dumb" thing going on. They are generally more liberal countries, so in some of those places, it's not uncommon for a girl to be what we would call promiscuous in the USA. Not all of em, for sure, but it seems much more accepted there - it's not frowned upon like it is in the USA. Another thing I see in American women that I can't stand is this fear or lack of desire to see anything in the world. I love to travel but my aforementioned ex-gf just has no desire to go anywhere. Of course she loves going to Florida and Los Angeles (probably because she is into the beach-bimbo-look-how-hot-I-am thing) but she'd have no interest in visiting somewhere unique and interesting. That generally doesn't happen with Euro women. Europe is small so you can't live there and not have visited other countries, so it's more accepted. I don't think there is really any difference in how faithful or loving women from those countries are. Actually, I find that marriage often is done for convenience there as much, or more, than in the USA. I am not sure what their divorce rate is... may even be higher than ours... but while cheating on your spouse in the USA is still frowned upon, it's much more common there in my experience.
SRT Mike, I have an American friend living in Shanghai who has a UK-educated Chinese girlfriend living with him. Had their ups and downs, but seem to be doing ok now. His problem is that he is super nice and a bit weak, so women walk all over him. While he was in the US, he went out with a Korean girl who was still in college. She used him a lot and he was happy enough to be used by her. He ended it reluctantly when he went off to China. Now he's back for Xmas break, and the Korean chick has graduated, has a job, and seems to have matured considerably. She is doing everything to get back with him, telling him she appreciates everything he did for her so much now that she realizes what it's like to work and support yourself. She has grown into the typical amazing Asian girlfriend (and yes, she's cute as a button). Weird. Honestly, I guess there's all types in Chinese, Indian, Korean cultures, but I believe long-term and statistically, they are much better bets than American women because of their cultural grounding. As for the guy to girl ratio, it's not the surface numbers that matter. It's the poverty and population levels that are so staggering that color everything. So, even though it's 3 guys to 1 girl, it's only 1 male doctor or engineer (and increasingly, MBA) to 300 girls needing a ticket out. Hence the dowry systems, the girls being married off, the number of proposals for anyone who is a professional, etc. And if you have 300 other girls with the same education and upbringing competing for the same guy, you will obviously pick the one with the best looks. That's why you see so many Asian women who are knockouts here, married to very ordinary-looking guys (to be kind), being great mothers and making all the white guys wonder where they went wrong. They had the engineering degree that gave them (or their parents) first pick. So, all you single guys who can't find a decent girlfriend here, if you are a professional and are a nice guy, go to India or China and have a friend from that country hook you up. If you are ok with the accents and cultural differences, and not looking to just get laid and leave, you will do VERY WELL. Especially if you are considered wimpish or meek here. They think most Americans are a bit forward/loud/yahoo types and being restrained is considered VERY polite. That's my take, at least.
Funny. I don't know any single US-born women that can cook, clean or iron. All the ones my age grew up believing in those stupid Clairol commercials...no, you ain't worth it. Or 35 and still believing the princess fantasy.
Thanks for your feedback. So regarding the attitude of Chinese people... to be honest, the "yeah we're just sex friends" thing that so many European women have really was a turnoff/dealbreaker for me. I met several women I got along with great but when I learn they have that thing in their past, I'm out the door. So what about China? I've chatted to several Chinese (like, living in China) women and they seem very reserved when it comes to that stuff... which I like. Not that I want some never-been-kissed women but the whole sleeping around thing is a major no-no for me. The Chinese women I've chatted to all tell me (they claim at least) to only have had 2 or 3 boyfriends in their life, and usually they seem guarded against men they feel are looking to "hump and run" so to speak. But it seems hard to accept a culture of "good girls" when you hear some of the stories from Chinese guys I know (or American guys who've been there "for fun"). So whats the real scoop on that? I have a great friend from Peru. Awesome woman (if anyone is looking!) and pretty too... thing with S. American cultures is they seem to really stick together, which is good, but it seems like once 1 of the 6 brothers/sisters gets out and "makes it", they have the responsibility to send $$$$ to the parents, siblings, grandparents, etc. Not to sound like a dink, but if you're a single and decent-income'd American guy, it's gotta suck when your new GF/wife want you to support her extended family of 20. I've heard rumors that this is common in China too.... that the children are expected to support the parents. That may mean $200/mo or something, but it could also mean 10x that Just curious if you have any experience? RE: Indian. I dated an Indian girl - she was American but her parents had come from India. It was surreal. I never met her parents and we were late 20's at the time, both of us. Her parents were in denial that their daughter was dating and still were pushing her to follow through on some arranged marriage. I got to know a decent amount about that culture from her, as well as managing lots of fresh-off-the-boat Indian workers. They still have that whole class thing going on, and one thing I noticed was that MANY Indians really love Americans, will be the most gracious hosts for you in their home, are friendly and kind. But they would *never* entertain the idea of their daughter dating anyone other than an Indian guy. I noticed that a TON. Even with "Americanized" Indians who had been here a while. Any comments on that? And what about the whole promiscuity thing as it relates to Indians? Are they more traditional or following in the footsteps of the modern European "ho'ing is fun" mentality?
Interesting. I wonder how women from Indian (It be interested to see how ME woman are viewed) are in comparsion. BTW, did I hit on the right woman in the previous page?
One thing that drives me nuts with US women is they are just so homely when it comes to dressing up. I'm not saying that you need to wear a gown or dress every time you go out or anything, but it seems like sweats and a sweatshirt have become the standard (with either "PINK" or Juicy Couture written all over) dress code for any place. It's that way at least in my age group (25).
That's good, because I don't own any gowns or dresses. And besides, wtf is the difference between a gown and a dress?
