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  1. joe sackey

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    #2626 joe sackey, Jan 26, 2009
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    Are you kidding me? You mean you don't know that the solid, well-built USA F40 is much better than the flimsy Eu car??

    I hereby sentence you to reading all 132 pages of this thread. Even if you don't learn anything about the USA car, you'll learn something about some of the characters that used to post here...

    Meanwhile, this is the best model year FYI ;-)
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  2. enzokidd

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    sorry lol...i read about twenty pages and became eager to post..thanks for the info!!
     
  3. joe sackey

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    kind of surprising. i always liked the euro nose better...
     
  5. joe sackey

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    There is one USA F40 resident on the East coast which the owner has carefully deleted all the black rubber trim & DOT sidemarkers. Basically, its a USA F40 that externally resembles a European/Rest of the World car. Quite nice actually...
     
  6. SefacHotRodder

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    He passed away, right?


    His F50 was un-turboed
     
  7. A_SINGER

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    Yes, Joe, the Efforty Lightweight - presented with this nomenclature by your illustrious goodself is certainly far lighter (and faster) than the USA F40.

    All good wishes from England from A Singer and his banned :)
     
  8. Schatten

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    Nope, he did not pass away. He's quite active and involved in the X-Prize.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_D._Carmack

    And the F50 was unturboed.
     
  9. SSNISTR

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    From what I have read, Euro spec is about 2700 pounds, and the USA spec is about 3000 pounds.
     
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    #2635 A_SINGER, Jan 28, 2009
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    Dear Omniscient F-40 Comrade SSNISTR,

    Yes, and as you have quite correctly ascertained, this huge weight differential is disproportionately high. Hence the English Efforty Lightweight that is clearly acknowledged by all aficionado's as all of ten per cent lighter will exceed two hundred smiles per hour and regretfully the US Heavyweight Efforty will not. Our dearest of Comrades Mr. Joe Sackey, doyen of all things Efforty may perhaps confirm the veracity. Over to you Joe :)

    All good wishes from England.

    A Singer with no banned :)
     
  11. bobafett

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    Who did the TT F50? I always thought it was Carmack. Norwood car, right?
     
  12. joe sackey

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    #2637 joe sackey, Jan 28, 2009
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    Carmack's F50. Apologies for off-topic. I remember when he was having it twin-turbo'ed and I thought: WHY? Bob Norwood is the guilty party.
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    So it is possible to have the Euro nose on US cars. Why arent there more US cars having their nose done the "right" way ? ;)
     
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    Dear A Singer with no banned:

    I can confirm that I have tried very hard somewhere within the remote southern Nevada desert, but alas, the USA F40 cannot achieve a terminal velocity of 200 mph.

    Unfortunately, well before the aforementioned speed was achieved, a light within the dashboard binnacle illuminated itself. The light was red in color and indicated "SLOW DOWN".

    I felt truly disappointed with Ferrari, because as you know I have purchased multiple F40s based on the fact that their speedometer advertises that they can achieve 200 mph.

    Accordingly, I wish to know, does the European Lightweight And Fast F40 come with a SLOW DOWN light also? If so, has this device ever illuminated itself at an inopportune moment?

    Please advise...
     
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    You can simply take off all the black rubber parts and the DOT lights as this one gentleman has done, if you like...
     
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    I still think the F50 is the sexiest car ever made!!
     
  17. bobafett

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    Joe: the slow down light, as I'm sure you're aware, has do to with the cats claiming to be on fire / banks misfiring than the car actually telling you to cool your jets.

    THe US F40 has a number of *very* weird "features" that the euro versions do not, including having the o2 sensors cut out above 2500 rpm (by design so as to pass smog and not confuse the thermocoupler ECUs which were never designed to work with the magneti marelli FI system). Hackjob stuff at best.

    I fondly recall that with 550s, the "hood latch open" diagram pops up anytime you've really pushed from 120ish to 190ish. Pretty disconcerting thought t othink 6 feet of hood will come slapping back at you at those speeds. ;) The first time I saw the light, well, in the words of Bill Cosby "You say it, then you do it"
     
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    #2643 A_SINGER, Jan 28, 2009
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    Dear Comrade Joe Sackey Omniscient Purveyor of Horseless Carriages to the Nobility and Gentry since Nineteen Seventy Eight,

    I can confirm that the English Efforty Lightweight is indeed provided with the obligatory SLOW DOWN light.

    I can further confirm that the SLOW DOWN light has never illuminated at an inopportune moment. The reason may very well be that the English Efforty Lightweight is more than ten per cent lighter than the USA Efforty. Furthermore the black moustache fitted to the front of the USA Efforty may well spoil the aerodynamics to the extent that the engine starts to labour when the vehicle approaches two hundred smiles per hour. However, the English Efforty Lightweight is merely just beginning to get into its stride at such speeds :)

    With kind regards,

    A Singer without a Banned
     
  19. joe sackey

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    So in effect you are saying less is more?
     
  20. SSNISTR

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    Well the weight difference is decent. BUT, it's not as huge as you make it out to be. Plus the USA spec cars "might" have gotten a little power boost to help even things out. Either way, even the USA spec cars will top 200 mph. Not just the Euro spec cars.
     
  21. SSNISTR

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    Joe, I can't remember if it was Road & Track or not, but I think they got a USA spec car to like 200.1 mph. Not saying then can hit the 202.5 mph that Quattroroute got out of a Euro spec one, but close.

    And I hope you don't go by what the speedo tops out as being what the car tops out at. I've proven that wrong with GPS many a time. :)
     
  22. DrStranglove

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    why dont you use your old account?
     
  23. joe sackey

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    #2648 joe sackey, Jan 28, 2009
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    Ryan most F40 tests including the Eu cars found the magical 200 mph almost achievable. In fact the R&T USA car they tested in 1990 got up to 196 mph, and the Eu car they tested in 1989 got up to 198. But some did go a bit over 200....

    This one goes 226 but then it cant stop!
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  24. SSNISTR

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    You also gotta remember Joe that when a quoted top speed on 201 mph is given, there are many varibles that could keep it on any day and time from hitting 201 mph. Wind, temps, surface condition, driver, length of test area and others. I have personally read at least three tests that hit or passed 200 mph. I think they were all Euro spec cars though. I know the car that Quatroroutte tested that hit 202.5 mph was a Euro spec car.
     
  25. enzokidd

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    i read a recent review on top speeds..sorry don't remember which magazine..but the author of the section said he hit 203 in a f40 on the autobahn..which means it was a euro spec car...lol i thought you told me the usa car was better!! :p
     

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