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  1. MordaloMVD

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    #1 MordaloMVD, Jan 18, 2009
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    Anyone know where to get one? Tried contacting Ferrari and they don't seem to want to answer. You can get it on the OTO so it must be being made. This is for an 05 by the way. Thanks.
     
  2. donv

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    I assume you could find some sort of aftermarket cruise control-- probably no need to try to retrofit the factory one. You could probably get one designed and built from scratch for what the factory would charge you!
     
  3. MordaloMVD

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    I thought of that, unfortunately no one wants to touch it. I have searched the web as well and so far no luck.
     
  4. bobafett

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    Ferrari isbeing that unresponsive? I would imagine that they would be all too happy to service this since they'll charge a ridiculous amount for it.
     
  5. MordaloMVD

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    You would think. Nada. :(
     
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    Has there ever been a Ferrari with cruise control?
     
  7. Sfumato

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    #7 Sfumato, Jan 25, 2009
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    I was stunned, but it is available now on the 612. It is some idiotic amount of $ IIRC. Lots of trickle down/up from maser QP. Memory seats, better Nav, Buetooth, now cruise. It needs to be available, I guess, Bentley/CL owners have expectations. Glad 599 doesn't have it. Since 612 and 575 have same throttle bodies, electronic, it could have been offered awhile back.
    Ha! You implied Ferrari would be responsive...you're gooned on Nyquil again, aren't ya, ya hop-head :D
     
  8. donv

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    I have cruise control on my 612. Works fine. What's your problem with it?

    The 612 is made for long trips, and cruise control is pretty nice when you're driving 500-1000 miles in a day.

     
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    Especially with the citation crazed Staters we have up here. What year is your 612? It can also be had on the California. Heck, my SLR has one. Needed with that car as it likes to settle in at 105 mph. :D:D Have also noticed that every F car we have or had likes 3200 RPM for final cruise speed. Unfortunately, once again that is faster than the posted speed limit.
     
  10. Pcar928fan

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    A car that costs almost (or more than for the new ones I guess) does NOT have Cruise control? That is idiotic. Now, if you don't want to use it don't, but for 300 large the car ought to freakin' drive itself if you want it to. I am always stunned by what some car makes get away with. Any Honda you buy has a cruise control... And in particular for a car like the 612 or the 599 that are made for eating up HUGE chunks of road for breakfast cruise and all those other niceties should be stock and on the car in its absolute most basic sense.
     
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    Don't have a problem with it, was shocked they actually put it on a car.
    Only been standard on many cars for years. Porsche and Ferrari resisted for a long time.
    I have had it on many cars, rarely use it. Usually won't work over 90. I have laser sense cc in my DD, at the distance it leaves, even the shortest, people cut in front of you constantly. Cannot override to conventional cc, so I use it even less.
    I do 500-1000/day trips, do 300 often, don't use it. Personal belief is that it leads to less attention than usual, I drive fast, and eyes work better than V1's at times. I like all the "regular car" stuff you can get now on Ferraris, but I truly was shocked to see it on sticker. Lord, we'll start a stick/F1 debate on cc. :rolleyes:
     
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    I live on cruise control and have no problems with it over 100 MPH. I find it more relaxing and better gas mileage as well. Last time I drove Hamburg to Munich I set it at 135 mph and had no issues. There of course people know to drive to the left unless passing. :):) Wish we could do that here. First we would have to build some real highways though. Always something. :)
     
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    My 612 is a 2008 OTO.

    I don't usually let it sit on cruise control for long periods of time, but I do like to put it on and be able to move my leg around a bit.

    And Sfumato, Porsche has had cruise control for many, many years. My 85 911 has it, and my 79 911 did as well.
     
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    Nice, are you bringing it to Cannon Beach this year? As to P cars and cruise, I have own 9 +/- so far over the years and everyone save my 76 Turbo and 72 914 had cruise. Wish I still had that car. :) The 76 Turbo. :)
     
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    Don, don't want to argue, I had 74 CIS S that had cruise. Never used it once, paid extra though. It hasn't always been standard. Never mind.
    Don't know why my original post got everyone all worked up, I just said I was shocked they offered it. Oh well. 612 I saw cc on was a pre-OTO car, BTW.
     
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    I don't think anyone said anything about standard. It does however strike me as silly that ANY "GT" manufacturer puts out a car without cruise for the USA market. As pointed out earlier, in Europe distances are shorter. Example I used, Hamburg to Munich 773 KM covered in 5.25 Hours. Seattle to Los Angeles 1984 km covered in 19 hours if you are lucky. (also says a lot about speed laws, 5.5 hrs. less on the road at German speeds) IMO cruise is a must in the US if you drive long distance.
     
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    hi there i have an 05 aswell
    and the factory said that it was no one wants a CC on a Ferrari!
    so that was that
     
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    Not just cruise control. How many other 300K+ GT cars don't come with heated seats as standard or the homelink garage door opener ????
     
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    That's a fine point, mine does have the bun warmers though. :):)
     
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    It's a Ferrari, and a "one to one," so questions of what is "standard" and what is not are kind of silly. My 612 has heated seats, homelink, and cruise control. All installed at the factory.

    I have to say, if you are going to quibble about the option pricing, the 612 is probably not the car for you!

     
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    I suspect that the problem is the integration with the electronics and the e-throttle. Probably not trivial to do. Unlike conventional throttles, I think the 612's cruise control is all implemented in software (I was using it yesterday, and don't recall the accelerator pedal moving to change speed, but I could be wrong). Thus, putting it in after the fact would be difficult unless you had access to the code.
     
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    The 2005 does not have the provision in the wiring harness to add the cruise control and the software file (PROXI) is not available for the car. The Proxi file is critical on these cars as it is the equipment profile for the entire car and involves all the control modules it would also require different software and possible hardware in the Engine control units. The late model 2007, OTO and Sessanta have the provision within the harness to add the cruise and most came form the factory with it. The switch is wired directly to the RH engine control unit pins 38,57,75,76 and the RH and LH control engine control units physicaly operate the throttles to maintain the spped which is recieved from the ABS unit after processing by the instrument cluster. Deactivation is by the off switch, or brake input which is supplied by to switches one through the ABS unit and the other through the Body module and any ABS gearbox or engine management fault involving the throttles or accellerator pedal would dissable the system.
    It could be done. It would require adding the switch and wiring and then getting a PROXI which ferrari would not likely supply and there may be other problems encountered with a incorrect proxi in the car.

    The easiest and most cost effective solution at this time is to purchase a car with it. If Ferrari recieves enough requests they may put a kit together. I would suggest submitting your request through a dealer as it will likely be better recieved by the factory.

    Hope this clears things up. Good luck
     
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    You have shattered my dreams and hopes....sniff...................thanks for the input.
     
  25. bobafett

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    Ver yinteresting data, thanks for that.
     

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