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Discussion in 'Australia' started by jeffQV, Feb 12, 2009.

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  1. jeffQV

    jeffQV F1 Rookie

    Feb 13, 2004
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    Nothing to do with Ferrari at all but today beats the hell out of me! I'm a mortgage broker who can do most things, been in the game a long long time. Four calls today from 'people' who want to buy a property, nothing wrong with that, BUT they were all on benefits and three were abusive when I said can't be done! (what I wanted to say was get a f**kin job and stop sponging) but I didn't. What is it with this lot that even remotely makes them think they can get a mortgage with no deposit and the State (ie you and me) will pay? I want to put on my Website....'if you are on Benefits and want a mortgage, f**k off and get a job'. Rant over, how is everyone this blustery Friday? :)
     
  2. goober

    goober F1 World Champ

    Nov 15, 2004
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    Fanny mae all over again
     
  3. Gleggy

    Gleggy Formula 3

    Sep 22, 2004
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    I like your style.
    Now, Now, are you sure they are not just misunderstood?
    Try saying ummmm,,,,,,, Bash it out your blurter, or, Why don't you go platt the hairs on your.............
    I always get a result that way. You can say it with a smile and love.
     
  4. "Megan"

    "Megan" Formula Junior

    Jul 1, 2006
    317
    Sydney
    Exactly, and further proof that humans just don't learn from their screw ups!! Good on you JeffQV for refusing to lend money to these idiots!! This whole socialism thing is getting way out of hand :( Whatever happened to incentive to work hard and be rewarded for that work? Mumble, mumble, mumble.

    What burns me is that my husband, who is one of those incredibly hard working people, has his hard earnt money taxed up the wazoo, which is then spent by irresponsible politicians who don't have a clue, or who are only motivated by self-interest and power.

    This day should be known as Black Friday in Australian History :(
     
  5. goober

    goober F1 World Champ

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    [QUOTE="Megan";138416337]Exactly, and further proof that humans just don't learn from their screw ups!! Good on you JeffQV for refusing to lend money to these idiots!! This whole socialism thing is getting way out of hand :( Whatever happened to incentive to work hard and be rewarded for that work? Mumble, mumble, mumble.

    What burns me is that my husband, who is one of those incredibly hard working people, has his hard earnt money taxed up the wazoo, which is then spent by irresponsible politicians who don't have a clue, or who are only motivated by self-interest and power.

    This day should be known as Black Friday in Australian History :([/QUOTE]

    every day since they came to power is a black day
     
  6. "Megan"

    "Megan" Formula Junior

    Jul 1, 2006
    317
    Sydney
    Nah, screw being polite - some of them need to be hit over the head with the proverbial hammer - tell em to get well and truly stuffed, and to come back when they have a clue, and a decent job!!
     
  7. "Megan"

    "Megan" Formula Junior

    Jul 1, 2006
    317
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    Very true, but this one is a friggin' doozy :( :mad:
     
  8. jeffQV

    jeffQV F1 Rookie

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    Feel better now! Just had a strong FW (double shot) before settling down to a beer or three and a barbee. What gets me is the arrogance and rudeness of these pr**ks, I don't really have a problem with them asking, its the stupid leftie looney culture that the west has developed into, its the remarks I get when I say 'no' or 'can't be done' or even worse, suggest they save a deposit :eek:
     
  9. goober

    goober F1 World Champ

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    i cant remember the source but one economist from the CBA that i heard at a breakfast said

    "if everyone in Aust was stripped of all assets and debts and given 1 mill dollars each, it would take only 5 years for the coutry to return to where it is now"

    meaning those that would spend it and end up with zilch would be about the same and those that have a work ethic would end up making money with it.

    so whats $900.00 gonna do...............zilch, except for poker machines who will profiteer
     
  10. jeffQV

    jeffQV F1 Rookie

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    and the Government gets a fair % back! brilliant!
     
  11. neilo63

    neilo63 Karting

    Sep 14, 2004
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    Labor government giving a Valentines gift that keeps giving for a while to the (predominantly) Labor States.
    Tax on booze will also return in their hands.
     
  12. b27

    b27 F1 World Champ

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    Come on Jeff, get with it will mate. :rolleyes:

    This is the era of entitlement don't you know. Why work when you have left wing socialist governments handing out our hard earned and piad tax dollars.
     
  13. jeffQV

    jeffQV F1 Rookie

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    Good point.

    Actually I am entitled to say f**k off to these t*ssers and choose to do so :D Is that PC?!!!
     
  14. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    shakes head, brokers.
     
  15. b27

    b27 F1 World Champ

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    You are only free to say what you want when you derive your income from centrelink. (sorry forgot what it was called back home)

    If you actually work and make a contribution to society then thou shall shut thy mouth. ;)
     
  16. gidge348

    gidge348 Formula Junior

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  17. b27

    b27 F1 World Champ

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    ****ing classic. :D
     
  18. jeffQV

    jeffQV F1 Rookie

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    priceless and good night :)
     
  19. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Dec 10, 2005
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    Excellent thanks for asking!! :):)

    Couldnt be better actually.........















































    Was pay day today! :eek::eek:
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  20. "Megan"

    "Megan" Formula Junior

    Jul 1, 2006
    317
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    Someone sent me this today - kinda says it all, really....


    To All My Valued Employees,

    There have been some rumblings around the office about the future of this company, and more specifically, your job. As you know, the economy has changed for the worse and presents many challenges. However, the good news is this: The economy doesn't pose a threat to your job. What does threaten your job; however, is the changing political landscape in this country.

    However, let me tell you some little tid-bits of fact which might help you decide what is in your best interests.

    First, while it is easy to spew rhetoric that casts employers against employees, you have to understand that for every business owner there is a back story. This back story is often neglected and overshadowed by what you see and hear. Sure, you see me park my Mercedes outside. You've seen my big home at last year's Christmas party. I'm sure all these flashy icons of luxury conjure up some idealised thoughts about my life.

    However, what you don't see is the back story.

    I started this company 28 years ago. At that time, I lived in a 2 bedroom flat for 3 years. My entire living area was converted into an office so I could put forth 100% effort into building a company, which by the way, would eventually employ you.

    My diet consisted of baked beans, stew and soup because every dollar I spent went back into this company. I drove a rusty Toyota Corolla with a wonky transmission. I didn't have time to go out with women. Often times, I stayed home on weekends, while my friends went out drinking and partying. In fact, I was married to my business -- hard work, discipline, and sacrifice.

    Meanwhile, my friends got jobs. They worked 40 hours a week and made a modest $50,000 a year and spent every dime they earned. They drove flashy cars and lived in expensive homes and wore fancy designer clothes. Instead of hitting David Jones for the latest hot fashion item, I was trolling through the discount stores extracting any clothing item that didn't look like it was birthed in the 70's. My friends refinanced their mortgages and lived a life of luxury. I, however, did not. I put my time, my money, and my life into a business with a vision that eventually, some day, I too, will be able to afford these luxuries my friends supposedly had.

    So, while you physically arrive at the office at 9am, mentally check in at about noon, and then leave at 5pm, I don't. There is no "off" button for me. When you leave the office, you are done and you have a weekend all to yourself. I unfortunately do not have the freedom. I eat, and breathe this company every minute of the day. There is no rest. There is no weekend. There is no happy hour. Every day this business is attached to my hip like a 1 year old special-needs child. You, of course, only see the fruits of that garden -- the nice house, the Merc, the vacations.. you never realise the back story and the sacrifices I've made.

    Now, the economy is falling apart and I, the guy who made all the right decisions and saved his money, have to bail-out all the people who didn't The people that overspent their pay suddenly feel entitled to the same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed a decade of my life for.

    Yes, business ownership has its benefits but the price I've paid is steep and not without wounds. Unfortunately, the cost of running this business, and employing you, is starting to eclipse the threshold of marginal benefit and let me tell you why:

    I am being taxed to death and the government thinks I don't pay enough. I have state taxes, Federal taxes, Property taxes, GST, Payroll taxes and Workers compensation. Taxes on taxes - I have to hire an accountant to manage all these taxes and then guess what? I have to pay taxes for employing him. Government mandates and regulations and all the accounting that goes with it, now occupy most of my time. On Oct 15th, I wrote a cheque to the Australian Tax Office for $288,000 for quarterly taxes. You know what my "stimulus" cheque was? Zero. Zip. Zilch.

    The question I have is this: Who is stimulating the economy? Me, the guy who has provided 14 people good paying jobs and serves over 2,200,000 people per year with a flourishing business? Or, is it the single mother sitting at home pregnant with her fourth child waiting for her next welfare cheque? Obviously, government feels the latter is the economic stimulus of this country.

    The fact is, if I deducted (Read: Stole) 50% of your pay you'd quit and you wouldn't work here. I mean, why should you? That's nuts. Who wants to get rewarded only 50% of their hard work? Well, I agree which is why your job is in jeopardy.

    Here is what many of you don't understand ... to stimulate the economy you need to stimulate what runs the economy. Had the government suddenly mandated to me that I didn't need to pay taxes, guess what? Instead of depositing that $288,000 into the Canberra black-hole, I would have spent it, hired more employees, and generated substantial economic growth. My employees would have enjoyed the wealth of that tax cut in the form of promotions and better salaries. But you can forget it now.

    When you have a comatose man on the verge of death, you don't defibrillate and shock his thumb thinking that will bring him back to life, do you? Or, do you defibrillate his heart? Business is at the heart of Australia and always has been. To restart it, you must stimulate it, not kill it. But the power brokers in Canberra believe the poor of Australia are the essential drivers of the Australian economic engine. Nothing could be further from the truth and this is the type of change you can keep.

    So where am I going with all this? It's quite simple.

    If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, my reaction will be swift and simple. I fire you. I fire your co-workers. You can then plead with the government to pay for your mortgage, your 4WD and your child's future. Frankly, it isn't my problem any more.

    Then, I will close this company down, move to another country, and retire. You see, I'm done. I'm done with a country that penalises the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, will be my citizenship.

    So, if you lose your job, it won't be at the hands of the economy; it will be at the hands of politicians who swept through this country and changed its financial landscape forever. If that happens, you can find me sitting on a beach, retired, and with no employees to worry about....

    Signed,

    Your Boss.
     
  21. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ

    Oct 22, 2004
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    Actually it wasn't 'leftie looney culture' that got us to this point but Little Johnie's 'aspirational' crap that sucked every Mum & Dad into believing they were rich because their house had doubled in 'value' - they're now finding out the worth of paper 'value'. Average Australia got sucked into believing they could get rich without effort by 'investing'; problem was /is many of the companies that were the darlings of the investment advisers were producing no tangible product.
     
  22. goober

    goober F1 World Champ

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    Karen, its not Howard's fault, most people got sucked into the share market frenzy of "buy buy buy" because of the uprise of profits and the like, now we see the market returns to its proper level. Money is not won or lost it just gets transferred from one account to another.

    The gen Y just got caught in the wave of a quick buck...................and throughout history it always happens, the so called junk bonds of the 70's and 80's, the dot com of 1999/ 2000, its the same formula just with different names...making real money is what makes the economy survive not the so called paper profit.
     
  23. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    generation Y suck.
     
  24. goober

    goober F1 World Champ

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    its not all their fault, blame the fund managers and share market people, they hyped up share prices and made people think they were worth a fortune when in fact its just bullsh!t.
     
  25. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    they are still a greedy genertation,they suck and their woman suck
     

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