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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Napolis, Jun 27, 2006.

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  1. wpbekker

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  2. jong

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    #477 jong, Feb 14, 2009
    Jim,

    During the re-bodying of 0854, have you noticed if the nearside bodywork panels are symetrical to the offside or, are they miles out, possibly due to being hand manufactured, possibly in a rush between races etc.

    Would be interesting to know if one side of the car is the same as the other.

    Regards

    Jon
     
  3. Napolis

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  4. Napolis

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    #479 Napolis, Feb 14, 2009
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    The body we're fitting is the one 0854 ran at Brands in 1967 and likely from her inception through that race. It's way different side to side.

    Here's how we found her tail and original doors 38 years later. Note original yellow Le Mans fire circle on door showing doors are aluminium.
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  5. jong

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    #480 jong, Feb 14, 2009
    Jim,

    Excellent photographs of the tail section.

    Have you got any of the front you can post, pre-restoration?

    Regards

    Jon
     
  6. Napolis

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    #481 Napolis, Feb 14, 2009
    You have to start at the beginning of the thread. Her original alloy nose was back on the car when I bought her from McCaw.
    The tail that was on her at the time was the original P4 spyder tail of 0858 which is now on 0846.

    Best
     
  7. etienne

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    Jim,

    Can you tell us when this fantastic project will be finished ? I guess we all will be a little sad this day, a bit like when you finish a book of adventures... Maybe another project in your mind ?
     
  8. Napolis

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    #483 Napolis, Feb 15, 2009
    I'd guess in about 9 months. I do very much enjoy the journey.

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    #484 of2worlds, Feb 15, 2009
    You addressed the heat issue with the 'driving version' of your Dino. Now that you will have a roof over your head on this car to; will heat be an issue in *0854* during warm weather driving? Thanks
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  10. Napolis

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    #485 Napolis, Feb 15, 2009
    We may have to add an in line fan to the cockpit air inlet as we have in our other Le Mans Coupes. If we do it will be done in a way that it can be removed without leaving a trace.
     
  11. Napolis

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    #486 Napolis, Feb 15, 2009
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    You can also see in this photo that when Piper raced 0854 after Brands he used a fiberglass body. Note how pit lane accident cracked rather than dented nose. After that accident 0854 continued on to finish that race.

    Piper's use of a Fiberglass body was a good thing as when the car caught on fire in another accident in 69 the original alloy body wasn't on it and as Piper wrote in his book 0854's original chassis, engine and gearbox survived the fire and Piper had 0854 up and racing in several months in yet another Fiberglass body.


    http://www.barchetta.cc/english/All.Ferraris/Detail/0854.412P.htm
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  12. Napolis

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    #487 Napolis, Feb 15, 2009
    As an aside I think Barchetta has this wrong.

    68/dec/26 acc. 3h Pietermartizburg David Piper
    69/jan/04 dnf 500km East London, ZA David Piper
    69/jun/29 8th OA 200 miles Nuremberg, Norisring


    I think it's

    68/dec/26 5 OA 3h Pietermartizburg David Piper
    69/jan/04 dnf ACC. 500km East London, ZA David Piper
    69/jun/29 8th OA 200 miles Nuremberg, Norisring
     
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    #488 epdowd, Feb 15, 2009
    I really like the second photo. It is interesting to see how different the cars could be that would be raced in the same class.
     
  14. Napolis

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    Same race different class.

    Those were pretty wild days. The speed difference on long straights were incredible 75+mph!
     
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    There's a good interview with DP in Feb Motorsport.
     
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    But the Highveld thunderstorms were a great leveler, in the 1969 Kyalami 9 hour one of those little Renaults pasted a Porsche 917....sorry to digress from topic.

    I think for a rebuild like this there cant reall be a fixed time frame, as there are bound to be snags at some point that were not planned for.
     
  18. Napolis

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    Pleasure Jim. ;)

    There's another of Levetto's videos posted by 'Nigel' in the Flickr P4 group pool, besides that one:

    http://www.flickr.com/groups/ferrari_p4/pool/ .... You might want to check the very first photo in the pool. :p
     
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    Great pictures!
     
  21. jong

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    #496 jong, Feb 15, 2009
    Jim,

    Would I be right in thinking, when you mention that 0854 had a glassfibre body, you are referring only to the nose and tail sections or was the tub also glassfibre?

    I am aware from one of your earlier replies that the doors were aluminium, at least in that photograph relating to your reply.

    Regards

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  22. Napolis

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    #497 Napolis, Feb 15, 2009
    Her Chassis was always tube steel. Her original body was alloy. Piper fitted fiberglass nose and tail sections to make racing damage more easily repairable and perhaps to preserve her original nose and tail. I'm now restoring her with her original alloy nose, tail and doors. She always had her original chassis, engine and gearbox. She doesn't have a tub like a Lola or Ford MK-IV.
     
  23. joe sackey

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    #498 joe sackey, Feb 15, 2009
    provenance
     
  24. Napolis

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    #499 Napolis, Feb 15, 2009
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    It's really pretty funny that some trolls are too stupid to understand that 0854 and 0846 are different cars.
     
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    #500 joe sackey, Feb 15, 2009
    Well he cant be talking about me because not only do I know more about "0854" & "0846" as being seperate cars than I care to admit, but "providence" can only be used in reference to a car if divine intervention is involved in its history.

    Jim I was simply pointing out that you used the WRONG word. No need to get all worked up.

    Im an admirer of all the cars withinn that series, obviously some more than others...
     
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