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Wow 2005 612 with 13k miles sold for $105k

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  1. blackdowndraft

    blackdowndraft Karting

    Jan 16, 2006
    62
    Palm Beach, New York
    Full Name:
    Arthur O'Brien
    Hello All

    please review:

    Palm Beach dealer auction results from Tuesday March 10, 2009:

    2005 612 13,000 miles F1-shift SOLD $105,000

    I sat in this car, drove it in parking lot, and looked it over quite well, it was a nice car
     
  2. 430spider

    430spider Karting

    May 12, 2006
    87
    North Tustin
    Full Name:
    James Warden
    If anyone knows of a 612 in this price range please let me know ... I am looking for a cheap 612 to use as a daily driver ... prefer in red but all colors will work.

    [email protected]
     
  3. PvtCounsel

    PvtCounsel Rookie

    Oct 1, 2006
    33
    Orange County, CA
    If it was a grigio ingrid, then that could explain the low price. Grigio Ingrid cars have also sold for much less than any other colors. Dealers have discounted Ingrid $20-30K less than black, titanium, red, silverstone.
     
  4. ferrarifan2

    ferrarifan2 Rookie

    Feb 8, 2009
    17
    Last is the one you mentioned.

    Search: Select Region: National
    Year: 2005 Seasonal Adjustment: No
    Make: FERRARI
    Model: 612 SCAGLIETTI
    Style: COUPE
    Transactions
    Date Auction Sale Type Price Mileage Cond Color Eng Trans In Sample
    03/12/07 BIG H Regular $199,000 7,455 Avg SILVER 12G No
    04/10/07 FAAO Lease $175,000 15,471 Avg BLUE 12G A No
    06/06/07 W PALM Lease $165,000 14,681 Avg SILVER 12G A No
    07/26/07 MANHEIM Regular $174,500 12,435 Avg BLUE 12G A No
    03/10/09 W PALM Lease $105,000 13,771 Avg BEIGE 12G P No
     
  5. absent

    absent F1 Veteran
    Lifetime Rossa

    Nov 2, 2003
    8,810
    illinois
    Full Name:
    mark k.
    Holy s***!
    At that price that would be the ultimate daily driver.
     
  6. 2000 456M

    2000 456M F1 World Champ

    Sep 29, 2007
    12,600
    Portland, OR
    Full Name:
    Allan
    20 month gap between the most recent and previous sales tells most of the story; we all know what happened. Yes, Ingrid sells at a discount, which makes it a smart purchase, IMO, if you aren't concerned about the "look at me" factor. Of the lighter colors, it is the most subtle.
     
  7. scycle2020

    scycle2020 F1 Rookie

    Jan 26, 2004
    3,477
    potomac
    What a deal...the ultimate DD!!!!
     
  8. Pcar928fan

    Pcar928fan Formula 3

    Jan 21, 2008
    1,702
    Austin, TX
    Not a fan of the Grigio color myself so I can understand the need to discount for that color. Never been a fan of that color on any F-car, but to each his own. That is a SMOKIN' deal for an AWESOME CAR!
     
  9. wingfeather

    wingfeather F1 Rookie

    Feb 1, 2007
    3,653
    rock bottom
    Ditto!!!!!!!!!!!!

    [email protected]
     
  10. 2000 456M

    2000 456M F1 World Champ

    Sep 29, 2007
    12,600
    Portland, OR
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    Allan
    #10 2000 456M, Mar 13, 2009
    Last edited: Mar 13, 2009
    Understood. It wasn't my first choice for an exterior color either, but, even though you want to admire the car as you approach or walk away, when it comes down to it, you really experience your car from the inside. (Think Gallardo exterior and its Audi interior). It was the interior of my 456 that made the big aesthetic difference. You can take a look under the recent 612/599 thread "sabia or crema" (actually spelled "sabbia", I think) at the bottom of the first and the top of the second page to see what I'm talking about.
     
  11. PvtCounsel

    PvtCounsel Rookie

    Oct 1, 2006
    33
    Orange County, CA
    I don't think that Ingrid is anyone's first, second, third, or fourth choice. Thus all Ferraris in this color are the last to be sold. No one would choose this color if another color was offered at the exact same price. Many would consider this color is a deal breaker at any price.
     
  12. donv

    donv Two Time F1 World Champ
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Jan 5, 2002
    25,927
    Portland, Oregon
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    Don
    Obviously that's not true, as someone ordered the car.

    Personally, I think it's a very nice color.

     
  13. PvtCounsel

    PvtCounsel Rookie

    Oct 1, 2006
    33
    Orange County, CA
    Yes, it is a nice color. It is not a very popular color. Yes, someone ordered the car in that color, but other colors are ordered many more times over this color. There is an ass for every Ferrari seat. There are just fewer asses for Ingrid.
     
  14. Kent A

    Kent A Formula Junior

    Nov 15, 2004
    329
    New Orleans
    Full Name:
    Kent
    Wow, what a deal! It is definitely a buyers market right now. With 612 prices dropping I am tempted to upgrade from my 456 to a 612.
     
  15. PCH

    PCH F1 Rookie

    Apr 7, 2004
    3,007
    Could you show us an example of this?
     
  16. PvtCounsel

    PvtCounsel Rookie

    Oct 1, 2006
    33
    Orange County, CA
    If you call any dealer and ask them for a trade in price on any ingrid car, then ask them if the car was another color, say black or red, would they give you more, you will see your example. Or, ask the dealer directly that you are thinking of ordering it in Ingrid, but you are worried about resale values, and if they would recommend another color. If they say that they would not or that it doesn't matter, then I am wrong. Ferrari of san francisco, had an ingrid that they could not sell for almost a year. The car was priced about 20-30k less than other color 612s that they sold. In the end, it really doesn't matter what I think, if you love the color, then that is the most relevant factor, and you will get a better price for it than any other color, if you don't then you are not negotiating hard enough. More people should order this color, so there will be more variety on the market and make it more of a popular and well loved color. I think a ferrari in any color is better than the best color in another car. If anyone likes Ingrid out there and is thinking of buying one, please do, all of us are right behind you and will support your fantastic decision. More Power to Ingrid and all those who are not afraid to express their feelings and don't give a damn what anyone else thinks. GO GRIGIO INGRID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  17. jamie140

    jamie140 F1 Rookie
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    Oct 17, 2004
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    Jamie
    Agreed with Ingrid's popularity. However, for a 12 cyl car, I love it.
     
  18. MfiveM

    MfiveM Rookie

    Dec 26, 2008
    27
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    Michael
    That was a good deal. I was thinking about picking up a QP as a new DD but at these prices it is really tempting.
     
  19. vnttg

    vnttg Formula Junior

    Jun 13, 2007
    262
    CA
    I'd love to buy it for 110K.
     
  20. tiara4300

    tiara4300 Formula Junior

    Feb 27, 2005
    650
    miami ,fl.
    Full Name:
    Adam
    The car was bought by Sanfer Sport Cars in Miami. I didn't look it over too well , but they did buy other F cars with frame damage that same day. Have this one properly inspected if you have any real interest.
     
  21. vnttg

    vnttg Formula Junior

    Jun 13, 2007
    262
    CA
    Thank you. I've called and talked to the principal, I think. He acknowledged that the car had a little pain work done on the door, otherwise it's perfect. I've ran a Carfax and found a little tiny thing. The color was noted as Gray when it was new on Jan 26, 06. When the car was sold @13,237 miles, it was noted as Silver on 09/23/08, and finally on 03/05/09 with a few hundred miles more, it was noted as Beige. Well, I do not think it was painted 3 times. Perhaps, DMV people do not like all the fancy Nuovo Grigio Ingrid and stuff, so they just noted whatever color appeared to them at that time. Still, I'm waiting for him to call me back next week if he'd accept my offer (with his reasonable profit margin of course), then I will go ahead with a PPI. I don't expect much though, cheap price for an "average condition" car is quite acceptable.
     
  22. open roads

    open roads F1 Rookie

    Jan 28, 2007
    3,799
    Sarasota, Fl.
    Full Name:
    Stan
    I bought a car from the guy in '94. A decent guy. I got a good deal on a good car and still have it.

    I would buy from him again.

    Good luck with it.
     
  23. watt

    watt Formula 3

    Jun 17, 2004
    2,205
    Northern Rocky Mountains
    Full Name:
    Giuseppe T Hemingway
    my scag was grigio nuvolari/cuoio/grigio piping, a [shock] maser colour!!! slightly darker than ingrid, and it was TITZ

    personally if you give me a big discount for ingrid i am all over it, and the palm beach blue hair gig in 612's: ingrid w cuoio interior with navy piping is rather TITZ even if you arent 90 years olde

    there's usually 2-5 of them for sale in that combo

    i would love to find a strad in ingrid
     
  24. 2000 456M

    2000 456M F1 World Champ

    Sep 29, 2007
    12,600
    Portland, OR
    Full Name:
    Allan
    What is TITZ an acronym for?
     
  25. PvtCounsel

    PvtCounsel Rookie

    Oct 1, 2006
    33
    Orange County, CA
    Ok, Ingrid with damage history. The price makes sense. It is good if you make an informed decision, but don't be surprise that at resale there will be further discount. Sports Car Company had a very pretty 2 tone 612 with diamond pattern interior, which had some paint work, they had a hell of a time selling it, but it was finally sold at a substantial discount. This same car was also at a Ferrari Dealer in Texas and could not be sold there.

    A damaged Ferrari is still a Ferrari. A Ingrid Ferrari is still a Ferrari. A damaged Ingrid Ferrari is still a Ferrari.
     

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