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  1. michael bayer

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    Any suggestion where I might find a DINO script horn button for the "L" style wheel? M
     
  2. ferrari dino

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    This is an original RHD wheel. Notice the outer cover seam is to the left of the center spoke at the bottom. Notice the outer cover goes over the three spoke covers. There were no holes in RHD or Euro cars to my knowledge.
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  3. ferrari dino

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    This is an original Euro or late 1973 to 1974 246 wheel. Notice the outer cover seam is to the left of the center spoke at the bottom. Notice the outer cover goes over the three spoke covers.
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  4. ferrari dino

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    This is an original 308 wheel. The wheel is thicker than 246. Notice the outer cover seam is in the center of the center spoke at the bottom. Notice the outer cover goes over the three spoke covers.
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  5. ferrari dino

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    This wheel was recovered. Notice the outer cover goes UNDER the three spoke covers.
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  6. ferrari dino

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    This is an original EARLY Dino wheel. Notice the outer cover seam is to the left of the center spoke at the bottom. Notice the outer cover goes over the center spoke.
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  7. ferrari dino

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    Notice the outer cover goes over the spoke covers. There were no holes in RHD or Euro cars to my knowledge. The late USA cars did not have holes. I have seen may press release photos and originl cars.

    The cars were pushed by the steering wheel through the window and that would break the steering wheels. I have had some of these wheels.

    The wheel on 07594 was not correct with holes. It should have no holes as it was a Euro car.
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  8. GermanDino

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    before #07000 all european models had holes in the steering wheels
    regards Matthias
     
  9. ferrari dino

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    This is new info for me. Where did you get this information from? I know late E series USA had no holes. I've never seen Euro E series with holes.
     
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    The early 365 GT4 BBs had a wheel identical to DinoDan's. I had one from BB 17659 I sold a few years back, unfortunately without taking photos. I think those wheels, fitted to several car models including the 365 GT4 2+2, are the most attractive of the leather-covered wheels from that era. My Dino 246 GT, 2984, had a similar wheel, but with holes. I broke the rim using it as a lever getting in and out of the Dino, fairly common, I hear. I replaced it with a similar Momo. I tossed the OEM wheel many years later, not realizing the wheels could be rebuilt.

    Too bad Ferrari had to change wheel design, that was a classic, but too hard to put an airbag in that teeny space. Much less fit start and mannetino switches.

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  12. GermanDino

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    Here are some more clarification on Ferrari Dino 206/246 steering wheels, with holes or without holes.

    206 GT: Momo, wooden steering wheel
    246 GT L-serie: Momo wooden steering wheel (first 20 to 40 Dinos), Momo Daytona leather steering wheel
    246 GT/GTS M- and E-serie: MOMO with holes and Momo without holes from some point of production in Q4 1973

    The Momo steering wheel without holes was the redisgned steering wheel for the new model 308 GT4, production start in Q4 1973 and really kicking of in 1974.
    So the steering wheel with holes went out of production. That`s the reason all Dino 246 produced late 1973 and 1974 got fitted the new steering wheel.
    There no difference between European, UK or US models. Important is the production date.

    Attched a few pictures of both steering wheels. From my understanding and research all original steering wheels delivered from Momo to Ferrari got stamped "MADE IN ITALY M 20340"
    Aftermarket Momo steering wheels didn`t have the no. "M 20340)
    The one with holes came from my GTS #06830 European model.

    These steering wheels got broken very easyly. So very few original steering wheels left. Stamped ones with "MADE IN ITALY M 20340" have some value.

    Regards Matthias
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  13. GermanDino

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    both steering wheels, with or without holes, had the same no. when delivered to Ferrari
    see next picture
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    Attached some more pictures of a M-serie steering wheel. (Came from a M-serie car)
    It seems to the case, that the Momo M-serie steering had a slightly different shape of spokes and a thicker rim than E-serie.
    The steering wheel feels much less fragile, more like the Daytona version from the L-serie.
    Stitches are slightly different too, see picture.
    Probabily cost cutting and industrial production changes triggered the weaker version for the E-serie. ;-)

    Important: It shows the same no. "MADE IN ITALY M 20340"
    Marks it as a Ferrari part.

    Regards Matthias
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    I have never seen a Ferrari Dino 246 steering wheel with the seem in the bottom center. I have only seen this in later wheels after 1974. Did you purchase this M series new? Was the wheel recovered?

    I have never seen a RHD Dino steering wheel with holes.

    I have never seen a Euro Dino E series with holes.

    Any original owners out there?
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  16. 500tr

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    As I wrote before 07620 is a Euro Dino E series, highly original and the original wheel has wholes. 07594, 06482, 05780 and 04182 the same.
    Attached a pic of 04182.
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    This is news to me. It's hard for me to research European cars on my side of the pond.

    As for 07594, I put the steering wheel with holes on that car. I even had it restored. The new owner didn't want the wheel with no holes so I sold it.

    When I purchased the car the dash had 3 vents yet no indication of a/c. I was also under the impression non-a/c cars only had 2 vents. Any light on this? Also the center console was set for a/c as it had an area for the fan and temp switches.
     
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  18. GermanDino

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    Here are some magazines from the early 70ties with test cars and pictures of the steering wheel with holes.
    M-serie, early E-serie, RHD- and US-model

    April 1971, Auto Motor u. Sport, Germany, #01212
    September 1971, Motor Sport, UK, #01616, RHD-model
    August 1972, Auto Zeitung, Germany, #03528
    December 1972, Motor Trend, USA, #03884, US-model
     
  19. johnvwatts

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    Did you ever own #07594? I bought the car ealy last year and we restored it to a very high level. Indeed an original restored wheel (including Ferrari number, see above) with holes came with the car. Maybe more via pm.
     
  21. GermanDino

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    Very interesting.

    I made some more research scanning my Ferrari Dino article collection.

    It seems, that on UK-models my theory might be wrong and as early as late 1972 steering wheels without holes might got fitted.
    I found a picture of a RHD Dino in the british magazine "Autocar" from March 1973 without holes ! Chassis no. not known.
    In the british magazine "CAR" from Oktober 1972 the RHD Dino had a steering wheel with holes ! Chassis no. unknown too.
    #05880, production April 1973, has a very low mileage and steering wheel without holes.

    Does anybody know of rules, that steering wheels with holes have been forbidden in the UK in 1972/73?

    Regards Matthias

    PS: On European models I cant find a steering wheel without holes as early as #07000 to #07500 (more #07500)
     
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    Corbani on this:
    "Replaced it with a 14.5” diameter (Momo) Prototipo. Works out just fine. Easy parking, good visibility and still fast enough steering for anything you want to do on the street."
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=162595

    It is not original to the car, but I think the best for driving is the Momo Prototipo.
    I've seen three original Dino steering wheels on eBay with a broken spoke where it meets the leather grip area. When driving the Dino in a spirited manner and grabbed at the wheel's 12 o'clock position, I imagine the original wheel tends to flex (as in when the car is in a cornering situation) which probably leads to this breaking. The Momo Prototipo's smaller diameter does not have this flex.
     
  23. GermanDino

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    agree, I`ve got the Prototypo on the #01406 and #06830.
    Works perfect.
    Highly recommended !!
     
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    I owned #07594 for about 4 years. Changed hands a few times before it got to you. It's great that you restored it so nicely.
     
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