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Discussion in '365 GT4 2+2/400/412' started by motoclau, Apr 13, 2009.

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  1. motoclau

    motoclau Rookie

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    Hi Guys

    Great web site just came across it

    Has any one a 412i engine, engine block or know where I can find one for sale?? been looking a while.

    Tks
     
  2. judge4re

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    Eurospares just got this one in.

    http://www.eurospares.co.uk/breaking2.asp?page=91
     
  3. motoclau

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  4. aidanparte

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  5. blkprlz

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    So that's enough damage to part the car out????

    Those oil filters have seen better days. I wonder if they're the 2nd set in all of its 65,000 mi.?
     
  6. aidanparte

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    Probably not, it looks to have been well maintained. Great colour combo.

    Aidan
     
  7. judge4re

    judge4re F1 World Champ

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    Parts are worth more than the cost to repair. And it will keep several other cars on the road.
     
  8. mk e

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    If just a block will do, I think the 365 and 400 blocks are pretty much the same. It's the 1mm smnaller cylinder liner bore that makes a 365/400 diferent from a 412 and it's a simple matter to bore the liners to 82mm. That will broaden your search quite a bit. 400s seemed to be pretty common when I was shopping last year and they have the same crank as the 412 so it's just the bore size to convert one.
     
  9. Ashman

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    Fred Petroske in upstate NY is parting out a 1983 (I think) 400i. Don't know anything about the engine or if it is available.
     
  10. motoclau

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    Thanks
    This has been one of those long going sagas sent the block to machine shop to put in new studs over drillid them now only 1mm between studs and liner not worth continuing on with rebuild if i get a new block and finish it off will cost over €10k replace ment engine cost half !!! Cars !!! :) got to love them tho!
     
  11. wrxmike

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    So the machine shop is buying you a new block ?

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  12. motoclau

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    I wish at my own risk been going on 6 months!! long story i would bore u all :)
     
  13. blkprlz

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    If this keeps up, these things could be quite rare/valuable.
     
  14. ArtS

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    motoclau,

    I have the time and I suspect the story is more interesting than you are letting on. Are you willing to share? You can leave out the names to protect the guilty...

    Regards,

    Art S.
     
  15. Ashman

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    Definitely so. As long as a small little fender bender is enough to "total" the car against a low market value, these cars will get fewer and fewer until, like the 250GTE, there are so few left and there are enough people who recognize what you are getting (no other V12 Ferrari is available for less than twice the price) then the price will go up to where it makes sense to restore and preserve them.
     
  16. ArtS

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    John,

    Don't get too excited about values. It still doesnt make economic sense to restore a 250 GTE, 330 GT or 365 GT. The restoration costs will put you in the hole even if you get the car for free.

    Regards,

    Art S.
     
  17. daviddavid

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    #17 daviddavid, Apr 14, 2009
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  18. aidanparte

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    Thanks for posting these. I remember seeing them when it was for sale. Beautiful car! There is something very elegant about the 412.

    Aidan
     
  19. bundas

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    are you in US i have a complete 400Ai $10000 locaqted at 40502
     
  20. blkprlz

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    #20 blkprlz, Apr 15, 2009
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    And your 400 isn't, Aidan?? lol
    Those ABS wheels are markedly different to its predecessors. Imho, it lacks the aggressiveness the concave ones characterized.

    Bruce
     
  21. aidanparte

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    Bruce

    Of course mine is too, but the 412 looks really great as well, especially in the color combo here! Just a little bit more modern, with the neat exhaust moulding, etc. I prefer the older wheels, though. I think I love all 400s, 365GT4s and 412s!

    Aidan
     
  22. blkprlz

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    Aidan

    There for a moment I thought you were ditching the 365/400's for the 412's.

    Bruce
     
  23. aidanparte

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    #23 aidanparte, Apr 16, 2009
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    The are all beautiful!

    Aidan
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  24. blkprlz

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    Now you're talkin'!
     
  25. 1bad412

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    I pulled my 87' 412 (34K miles) engine and sold it to GT Car Parts. They still have it for sale. You can google the name for the phone number. you can email me if you want the history on the engine. Regards, Bob ([email protected])
     

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