Diffusers Legal!!

80 hours is only the bare minimum. Brawn has months of develop and presumably won't be caught this year. Ferrari already has their diffuser design ready to go but its like 1978 all over again....

 

YEEEHAAA!!!!

Clever answer!

Sour grapes.

How about admitting for once that another team was smarter in developing their car?

 

Ferrari have reacted:

Will Ferrari win a race this year?

 

1980 anyone......

 

Only if they are lucky...they don't have the best car nor the best drivers.

 

I see more trouble ahead..

 

Don't remind me. -Ironically aero issues killed that car, nothing to do until the 126C1 came along.

 

True....at least we dont have pre qualifying anymore....

 

+10,000,000

The way I see it is the fact that Brawn, Williams, and Toyota all saw grey area in the diffusers rules. They in turn took advantage of it and are ahead of the pack. The fact of the matter is that all motorsport rules have grey areas in there rulebooks. The teams that work within the grey areas are the ones that are at the front of the pack as this is where the performance gains are found.

 

Cant really argue with you.....

 

So Ferrari and Mclaren will sacrifice this season which = Brawn wrapping it up 4 or 5 races early.....Oh what fun that will be...I thought we all wanted close racing. In the meantime Ferrari and Mac end up doing the same next season and again we end up with booooooring racing. The only thing making it interesting this season is the simple surprise factor. Im sure it will get boring watching Brawn win race after race. Like I said before...Im sure they were holding back even. Wait till they open it up! Now having said all that....Im sure we will see more rule changes allowing the other teams to cathc up and make it close till the end making it once again a GREAT SHOW.

 

How is it unfair for some teams to build a faster car? All of the teams had the same opportunity to design and build their cars to the same set of rules. The fact that some teams did a better job than others is not unfair. In fact, that's what we should expect out of 10 independent groups of designers, engineers and technicians.

 

Sorry Kraftwerks, I guess you won't win the Irish Sweep stakes now.

 

Brawn isn't a sure thing.

This time last year, McLaren looked dominant, then a few races later, Ferrari emerged as the dominant team.

Brawn and Button are looking good for niow, but who knows what can happen... things change and likely it will be mid-year before we really know who the leaders are Brawn is in a good position, but so is Toyota, Red Bull, and Williams. And once the diffusers are used by all, we may find the others coming back into contention as well.

 

Because they bent and twisted the rules so much that it's on the edge of breaking by one little word... slits. Not to mention Renault and Red Bull came up with the same idea, but when they asked the FIA if it would be legal they were told no.

 

That is assuming all teams manage to adapt diffusers to work on their cars....I do wonder what effect the diffusers have on overtaking, wasnt this one of the problems the FIA wanted to do away with hence the reduction in aero aids?

 

There is optimal solution and there's no optimal solution; and every solution is unique.

DDD emerged in Februrary/March 2008. But the point is, DDD doesn't make BGP 001 so superior on long runs alone - it's only piece is excellent engineering puzzle created through 2008 at Honda. It's not only diffuser, BGP 001's whole aerodynamics is rated as highly advanced compared to other cars. Not only aerodynamics. It's publicly known that strongest point of BGP 001 is excellent mechanical platform which makes the car very fast and stable in slow-to-medium speed corners.

So, as always - winning car is combination of things. Good aerodynamics and good mechanical platform makes them fast everywhere. Only reliability is the concern, but as season goes on it's less and less an issue.

 

Byrne said cars with DDD would generate more turbulences.

I think i read somewhere, but i'm not too sure, that BGP demanded Byrne's words by claiming their simulations show that's not the case.

I think they obviously generate more vortices, but not even close to pre2009 designs.

 

Euro cycle is the equalizer here. Brawn so far ahead now they can coast a bit...BIG Brawn question I have is do they have the money to develop the car over a season like McLaren and Ferrari? Brawn is leading the pack now, but if they don't have dollars as fuel to continue development they will slowly slide down the order as other teams play catch up...which they MUST do this year...McLaren and Ferrari will spend LOTS and LOTS of money this year in light of caps next year. Still, Brawn's lead is so great now that if momentum carries them through Euro cycle with good results they can coast to the end and spend $$$ on next year's car.

 

Winners win, losers lose. As always.

 

I'm as poor as a church mouse, that's just had an enormous tax bill on the very day his wife ran off with another mouse, taking all the cheese.

Go Button!!!. whoa now am a rich rat..

 

Interesting....

 

Winners win, losers lose. As always.

 

It's clear that the spirit and letter of the rules were different which the FIA could rectify but haven chosen not to. It's got nothing to do with sour grapes. This verdict has spoiled the season for me but I'll immediately admit that the opposite ruling would have spoiled it as well because FIA failed to act before the season started.

 

I agree but the testing ban kills any meaningful chance of closing the performance gap at least until mid-season at best; probably will be too late by then. Ferrari will introduce an F60 B version at the start of the euro season.