New clutch at 5,000 miles

Do you have an F1 or 6 speed manual?

 

ive heard of some needing to change it at 5000 before... its the way you drive your car, becareful not to hold the minus gear pedal and accelerate cause that would really burn and eat up on your clutch, ouchhh had it happen to a mate

 

99% of the time, it comes down to the driver mate. More abuse, means more wear and tear.

The 1% is if the PIS is out of adjustment.

Are the first owner from new?

 

I believe that you can only SD2 test the clutch wear on an F1 'box car.

Papster - Please advise me if I'm wrong

 

Yes sir!! SD3 for the F430.

Unless he has a 6 speed manual and they guessed 91%??

Some pics of and SD3 showing clutch wear on someones car.

Pics courtesy of Ricambi America.
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Actually, the picture is coutesy Eugenio --- but I supplied with the gizmo late last year.

 

I thought so, but wasnt 100% sure.

But, you were ever so kind to post the pics on Fchat.

Looks like a cute toy, gotta get me one, one day.

 

pap always comes up with the goodies

 

Pappy has got what you need!

Let me have a look, I may have an Aussie delivered 2005 Stradale with books and 10K on the clock laying around somewhere in my garage!

 

So what actually causes these clutches to wear more; driving the car slowly in traffic and up and down driveways parking them or redline changes up and down the box?
I've been hearing so many conflicting theories on this subject.

 

I hear in the F1 transmissions, you can due some serious damage to the clutch if you drive the car in auto mode. But I think that accounts to alot of city driving. In stop and go traffic, the clutch will heat up causing it to slip. The general rule of thumb, is to avoid heavy traffic if possible as it'll just eat away at it. If you are going down a steep driveway, it'll probably be best to put your car in neutral to begin with. In the end, it all comes down to operator error and how you drive the car.

 

I can still smell my clutch from my 355 F1 I sold in 2001 after backing it up my driveway!

 

I got 20K miles out of my first clutch and fly wheel. That's 20K miles of Los Angeles daily driving. There are a few simple things to avoid to keep a healthy clutch life on your 430.
To me they are all obvious. Im way too exhausted from a 2 hr workout to post anything more. PM me if you want.
Ape

 

Some 430's have pressure loss (leaking pressure). Usually the 3 screws at the actuator under hard driving/vibration can loosen.

There is a new TCU software update for the 430, started with the Scud

 

Somebody's been having a goooood time with that car. If they can measure the amount of wear, it's an F-1!!!

 

At 14,000 miles, my clutch (F1) shows only 7% wear. Properly maintained, your clutch should not be worn at only 5000 miles.

Tim

 

are you sure they aren't reading it backwards... i.e. 9% wear. You should be able to peak into the inspection window on the bottom of the gear box and measure the thickness of the disc if I'm not mistaken. I have a hard time believing you have worn out 90% of the clutch in 5K miles, unless they were 5K of track miles or something.

Does the clutch slip if you put the car into 5th gear on the free way and floor it when going about 60 or 70 MPH? Normally a badly worn clutch can be broken loose in 5th gear under WOT. I had a car where I burned the face of the clutch and you could go down the highway, put the car into 5th gear, then floor it and the motor would rev and the tach would go up to redline without the car going appreciably faster

Ray

 

I only got 8,000 miles out of my clutch on my 355 (manual trans.). It was a kevlar clutch too!

 

No insult intended but you only get there by poor clutch use.

All good points. Track won't do it but it is possible if the clutch wasn't set up correctly and/or he drove it in stop & go a lot.

 

I'll see what wear I've put on my 360 in a few weeks. I've done over 10,000 miles in the 8 months I've owned it and don't really rev match as I shift. It's a manual, but doesn't seem to be giving at all. Do these clutches tend to slip as the get near the end of their life? Or if it reaches the slipping point I'm already trashing the flywheel?

 

Haha! Yeah, there may have been some premature clutch wear in this case.

 

Im on my original clutch
52k miles 360 6 speed

 

Ultimately all clutch wear comes from partial engagement, mostly when starting out. With manuals, getting the clutch fully engaged as quick as you can with as low revs as you can wears the least. I would think with paddle cars doing the rev matching there would be almost no wear on shifts once moving. Certainly high rpm starts and riding the clutch at low speed will cause wear whether it's paddles or a stick.

Dave