Fabspeed F430 High Performance Headers

at least look very beautiful However, if you want performance and have 98 Gas, simply get an ECU upgrade & new airfilters ! More bang for your buck

 

That's the catch now isn't it. It is all well and good to say that it feels faster but Jeremy has pre and post dyno numbers to prove the performance gains.

I once had a dirt bike that I put new grips on. The new grips were the lobed grips. If you rode the bike before and after you would swear that it was faster with the new grips. BUT, you don't have to be very smart to know that grips didn't make the bike faster; you were just using more throttle. The point is "The butt dyno lies".

 

What he's trying to say is that although Ferrari owners have deep pockets, there is NO WAY IN HELL that those headers are worth anywhere near the asking price.

What would you say the manufacturing price is compared to the selling price on those headers are???... probably a 1000% markup.

 

What does manufacturing cost have to do with value? I think the point is - If you don't want them don't buy them. Also, don't pointlessly shell our sponsors. Sponsors help keep this forum alive.

Fabspeed makes a great product. Good quality, good support, and they provide verified results. That is more than can be said for many companies.

Jeremy, I don't think you should address this type of post. In the open sections there are 10 posers, or more, for every owner. Funny how there is always discussion of cost, depreciation, etc. in the open forum but the owners forum doesn't discuss it at all. Fortunately there are many owners and non-owners who are genuinely interested in cars and want to participate in a constructive way and don't feel the need to demean others to make themselves feel better.

 

I could not agree more with John here. Eastwood's comments do not correlate to those of business experience.

There is considerable work to develop and market a product. If you doubt it, try it some time!

It's for damn sure Fabspeed's headers are not only superior to what Ferrari provided they are a whole lot less $!

Then there's the issue of performance. I doubt that's a problem for Fabspeed.

 

Jeremy

I think John and I will be after you by the summer maybe for headers.

What's the progress with David's install in Florida?

 

For how many headers they sell that really isn't a bad price at all. Production headers for import cars, 3000gt / Supra are about 2,000-2,500 for headers that sell every day. You really can't beat that price.

 

Eastwood, I think you need a reality check.

If you buy the stock headers you will be spending around 10g.
The ss fabspeed uses is not only superior to the factory product but the fabrication and welds are first rate as well.
The only issue to me is the lack of heat shields.......
but as for the price.....I have no issues whatsover.

 

I like those collectors !!!

 

Keep your hands off them!!!!!

 

Those are darn fine looking headers by anyone's standards. I have to say, I was pretty luke warm on fabspeed when they first started offering products for the 360. However, after watching their progression into the Ferrari market and after seeing some of their recent attention to detail in products such as their headers, I have to say my opinion is starting to change for the better.

Ray

 

I have Kreisseig headers with NR cats NR exhaust ECU upgrade and NR airbox in the 430 with all this the car sounds like a FK&%/%/ MONSTER and runs very good it is faster than SCUDS,I think headers help.
I remember that when I installed the headers the car volume went up by 20%,I covered with thermal isolator tape to prevent fire....

 

Jermey,

There is no doubt in my mind that you can get more horsepower and torque with you aftermarket headers as is. But don't you think we could get even more out of your set-up if the ECU's could be optimized? Do you guys know anyone west coast doing ECU reflash with good reputations for positive results and no blown motors? If there are no flash programers what about piggly back fuel controlers that can work at wide open throttle?

 

Actually try no bang for your buck. I've yet to see any ECU's that add more than 5rwhp and we tested most of the big names a few years ago.

Eastwood - You are an idiot, thank you for making it clear you have absolutely zero experience in this field and like to run your mouth. I can make a F430 header for $300/set, unfortunately it would require me to order 1000 sets at a time and have them built in China with questionable quality. When these are being HANDCRAFTED in the U.S. at a low volume of 15-30 sets/year the price is VERY reasonable. Hopefully 4 posts is all we see out of you.

 

When I looked in to this possibility two firms indicated that the most notable improvement would be gas mileage due to optomization of the fuel burn with some additional mid-range increase.

That's a ton of $ to pay for a bit of increased fuel mileage.

 

Awesome...I'll PM you on a pet project

Thanks!