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  1. Boudewijn

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    Should be 1964 when Maglioli drove 0812 with racenumber 22.
     
  2. GIOTTO

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    Should be right. And André Simon drove the Maserati tipo 151 n°2.
     
  3. richardowen

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    If you won't give away your 'secrets' let me do it for you.

    723 pages of Targa Florio images:

    http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/theme40/sujet378358.htm
     
  4. thecarreaper

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    #4655 jselevan, May 22, 2009
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    Is that not Montour Falls, down the road from the Glen? No, no, I think that you are correct (as I study it again). I spent more time at the falls, don't recall walking in the Glen. The Bog and the rain and the beer....it's all a gray memory.

    Jim S.
     
  6. piloti

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    Hi Boudewijn
    How did you work out the year from that photo?
    Nathan
     
  7. Boudewijn

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    Nathan, on the photo you can see the no21 pits. Searching in my photo-archive on Maglioli and Le Mans showed me he drove a similar number at Le Mans 1963 and 1964 both times number 22, the number he then should be standing in front of. Because the Ferrari sign on top of the box was fixed a bit different and showed a scar compared to pits photos of the 1963 year I came to this conclusion.
    Best
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  8. piloti

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    Brilliant! I looked long and hard but couldn't decide which year. Many thanks.
    Nathan
     
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    Do it for me then. ;)
     
  11. piloti

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    #4661 piloti, May 27, 2009
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  12. Boudewijn

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    Hi Nathan, nice photos from Sweden August 12 1956. Peter Collins drove no5 with Oliver Gendebien (resp. on the left and on the right in first photo) and Manzon in 0616 (DNF).
    Best
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  13. Tom Roland

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    Car #5 is 290 MM 0616 and it is Robert Manzon (first driver from the left on the photo) and reserve driver who, after he took over from Gendebien, ran off the course and retired.
     
  14. thecarreaper

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    what is the meaning of the "V" gesture some of them are doing?

    it looks similar to the gesture in the famous photo of Steve McQueen at the end of "Le Mans".

    beautiful photos.
     
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    "V" is for victory; made famous in WW 2 by Sir Winston Churchill.
     
  16. Ed Niles

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    I should add that the brits sometimes wave the two fingers in that fashion to mean the same as our well-known middle finger gesture. So it's unclear what message the mechanic is sending!
     
  17. piloti

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    I'm quite sure that the mechanic, being Italian, is indicating V for victory, but the grin on Hawthorn's face would indicate that he is thinking something else - as Ed has posted.
    Can anyone identify the three drivers to the left of Hawthorn (Hawthorn's right) in the bottom photo. I can post a blow-up of the drivers if it will help.
    Thanks to everyone who has replied so far.
    Nathan
     
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    Mike Parkes, Ferrari 250 P, Reims 1963.
     
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    Given the expression and the way his hand is held I think we know;)
     
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    Nathan ,

    the first one near Mike(Mike'r right) is Alfonso de Portago.

    Great Pics and thank you for sharing !

    regards
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    From left to right: Robert Manzon, Olivier Gendebien. Then Alfonso De Portago, Mike Hawthorn, Peter Collins and mechanics Parenti, Rossi, Solari in front of Amadessi (holding kid) and with suit case is Mino Amorotti (Ferrari representative for free!)
    Behind them on the pit counter bracing himself to the pit structure is Eraldo Sculati (Ferrari sports manager for 1956).

    Other pic shows Gendebien on pit counter and Collins leaning.

    Arjan de Roos
     
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    According to Count Volpi and Giorgio Neri (of Neri & Bonacini) during the interviews they kindly consented to for the Breadvan book Amorotti was an independently wealthy Modenese area gentleman who helped out on occasions when the factory was short staffed, such as Le Mans 1962 when he oversaw the factory Ferrari effort. Contrary to rumored antagonism between Neri & Bonacini aka Scuderia Serenissima* and the factory due to the Breadvan at the race of its debut, Neri and Amorotti had neigborly chats and shared jokes at Le Mans 62.

    Scuderia Serenissima was run by N & B: Volpi retained their services to field and service his cars, Nello Ugolini ran the office.

    best regards,

    Marc
     
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    #6003 - Monte-Carlo 1966.
    #3607GT - Monthléry 1965.
     

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