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  1. Peter

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    A quick question that I don't think has been addressed before:

    The washers used under the cam bearing cap nuts, are they Belleville type?
     
  2. Rifledriver

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  3. Peter

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    It looked like it to me, but I thought I'd ask to make sure. Thanks, I appreciate it...
     
  4. duck.co.za

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    Ok without sounding stupid what's a belleville type ? does it have another name ?
     
  5. Steve Magnusson

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    #5 Steve Magnusson, Jun 1, 2009
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    Belleville washer = conical spring washer = a.k.a., disk springs = a volcano-shaped washer:
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    Is a different name more commonly used for these in your part of the planet?
     
  6. f308jack

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    Somewhere near where both Dave and I live there is a place called Belleville.
     
  7. Steve Magnusson

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    #7 Steve Magnusson, Jun 1, 2009
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    No real surprise there -- if you've got a washer named after you (and how cool is that!), you're pretty darn famous ;)

    Here's the Wiki link:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belleville_washer (Although I'm a little surprised it doesn't give some historical background on the name -- whether it's for a specific person or maybe from a region where it first originated.)
     
  8. duck.co.za

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    @ f308jack thought of putting that in my first post , only you and I would catch on !! Thanks for the explanation .
     
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    SO...Rifle, got tired of Nick Nolte? :)
     
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    I always thought Brian was the most interesting man in the world. ;)
     
  11. FF8929

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    Not so fast, we've got a Belleville (MI), here too!
     
  12. blainewest

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    Whatcha doin Peter??? I replaced my belevilles when I did the major 3 yrs ago. IIRC they go high side (center) up ie they sit like a cone not a funnel.
     
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    My avatar has been taken over by internet conspiritors.
     
  14. f308jack

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    The Belleville Conspiracy?
     
  15. M.James

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    Does anyone have a 'correct' source for the washers in this application? I am missing three of them, (some were replaced with a non-BelleVille Washer in a previous 30K service 'attempt' by an amateur - don't get me started).

    I took-down the inner and outer diameter measurements, but I didn't take any other measurements. Seems that these washers are sold based on other parameters that I do not have : Cone Height, Thickness, and Force.

    http://www.bellevillesprings.com/belleville-washers.html

    Help! Which ones do I buy?
     
  16. fastradio

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    Sure and why guess...?
    Any Dealer will have them, although the PN has been superceeded many times. Around 22 cents each.

    David
     
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