Just stumbled on this......
Just stumbled on this... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ferrari-308-308-1977-Ferrari-308-GTB_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a12Q7c66Q3a2Q7c39Q3a1Q7c72Q3a1205Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem20ac0682b8QQitemZ140325061304QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks It's also listed on Craig's List for $28k http://boise.craigslist.org/cto/1202190567.html No intel on the car...haven't even seen it around the neighborhood which is odd, as Boise is pretty small. Don't know if it's glass or steel obviously...but if someone is interested I'd be glad to check it out and give my .02. FWIW.....
How does one tell if it's steel or glass? VIN number I assume? I did a quick search here and what I gleaned; it required a close inspection.
...also, there is only one person in town who will service a f-car. So, if the owner doesn't have any history, maybe the mechanic will. ....ifffffff the owner has had any service done.
Probably an early steel car, like my #20405...... Wrong mirrors, wrong front fender vent color, and goofy tack ons....... BUT there's not many out there these days, so probably worth tire kicking on it, if interested.... I look at the car rather than records and have on several of them!!!
Simplest way to tell if its glass is a seam in the A-pillar. The shape of the rear license plate panel is usually flat as well and in some cars, euro I think, the reverse lights are in the bumper and there is a single exhaust. Looks pretty in the three small pictures but that means little. Regards, Art S.
This car was originally silver, according to the registry. Maybe Robert can chime in on how he got that info.
I wouldn't worry too much about records from the PO - we're talking a 32 year old car here so condition is more important than records - however, it's worth running a car fax on it to see if the miles are original. And, obviously, a thorough check of the engine including compression and leakdown is advisable. If the body is solid with no rust then the rest (brakes/suspension/interior) is fixable with some reasonable time and money. Looks like a nice car. Don't be shy about making a lowish offer - soft market for any ferrari right now. Good luck!
CARFAX can only be run on newer cars with a 17 digit VIN. The current title will show the miles when he registered it. If he has put a few thousand on it since then and it is in good condition and currently runs well, it could be a good purchase for a DIY type. It may need some neglected maintenance such as fuel lines, belts and some other misc stuff. But if you can do it yourself, that will only set you back $1000. Not every car needs to be a Pebble Beach winning concourse car with everything absolutely perfect. I like to take mine to Home Depot, the grocery and everywhere else when weather permits.
By no means am I saying it is a car no one would want. It's just not for me. Have a ppi done. If it checks out with the ppi you havent any concern regarding previous owners or previous maintenance history, go for it and have fun.
My #20405 is among the very earliest steel bodied North American spec cars.......so that alone makes them pretty special, IMO. At that point in production glass and steel cars were made side by side....the North American glass 308GTBs VINs are well documented..... It came with complete records since 1981, a single owner...but between 1977 and 1981 it was wrecked, burned, and color changed! LOL! So you just have to work thru things like that.....it's the best running of my three actually, but more from fate than any thing else......
+1 Records are nice for some but they drive the price up. I'd rather buy a car on condition rather than paper.
I can understand the value of records and PPI, but it's best if you have auto mechanical knowledge and when looking at these mechanically simpler but not too-expensive cars, let's say if you see a Ferrari for a reasonable amount, sometimes you want to be able to check out the car yourself and make an offer instead of looking for your favorite mechanic, fly him in, run all the tests, have him look at the records (if you don't know about car, looking at the records doesn't help you much), during that time frame another buyer can look at the car and find that the car is ok then he can walk away with the car while you are still trying to arrange for a PPI or someone to interpret the records for you. Sure there will be another car but good ones usually go faster.
Still on the prowel for a 308 and ran across a 328. All things being equal, 308qv vs. 328, both cars are Euros. Any pluses and/or minuses in comparisons.
My 77 308 had no records, I didn't let that hold me back. Car ran great and I bought it for a fair price. The car I was going to buy before this one had records, that was the problem way too many, a thick stack of receipts. That bother me more than the one without records. Another one had a clean Car Fax, turns out if was in an accident that was never reported, so much for Car Fax. These are thirty + year old cars, if you like the car and your comfortable with it, buy it.
Hi Mick, sorry, I am a bit late on this... but here is where the silver came from: 20971. Silver/red. Blaupunkt Bamberg. 15,000 miles. At FAF,GA. $30,900. Ferrari Market Letter August 1979 20971. Silver/red. Offered by Mr. Cochrane in Alabama. $28,500. Ferrari Market Letter November 1980 Regards, Robert www.308gtb.de