FOTA: No KERS 2010

Another message to Max.

 

A knock-down, drag-out fight over team participation in setting F1 rules.

Given Bernie/Max's track record in rules changes of late, ....

Viva la revolutione.

 

maybe KERS isnt the answer.WAit,it isnt.The Brawns are trying to repeat FERRARI 04',and they dont run it.This isnt drag racing.Let's get out of this KERS faze unless it's gonna be more "fuertisimo"(150hp instead of 80hp).

 

Agree wholeheartedly.

Another illustration of Max's idiocy... V8 engines cost >$1 billion (collectively) to develop. KERS cost hundreds of millions, possibly billions. Tire changes, aero changes, chassis changes... all add up to metric tons of cash. Now Max would paint himself as the iron fist of cost savings? Laughable!

The teams know best where money is spent, and they know best where it can effectively be cut, while still letting them innovate.

 

Yeah, KERS would be interesting if they really allowed it to make a difference. So far, with that videogamish 6 seconds limitation is useless.

 

Another message that he will ignore.

 

KERS is an attempt to develop road car technology in F1. Nice thought, but that is not what F1 is about. That is what LeMans is about.

 

^Agreed on the above post. Max talks so much of bullsh!t about cost cutting, and yet KERS, IMO, is just useless, and too complicated. They should just go back to turbos to make it more exciting.

 

Despite the few interesting moments that KERS provided in Turkey its pointless expensive and dangerous. No wonder MM likes it

 

I agree wholoeheartedly...had Max simply put rev limiters on the V10s the cars would have been slowed down, still sound good (now they're kinda meh) and teams would have saved a fortune...and this is all before KERS!

Hilarious.

 

If logic and sense are involved......you can count Max out.

 

Remove the KERS for 2010 and allow the v8s to rev up to 20k again and have 2 race lifes for the engines and transmissions.

 

I agree with taking it out for the purpose of dropping expenses but quite frankly, this is the biggest innovation in the sport since Schumacher and I would hate to see it go. Imagine a future Ferrari, Mercedes, BMW, etc, that has HI PERFORMANCE (in an 800hp environment) Hybrid capability.

 

Kers in a high performance car still doesn't make sense to me. If you can afford an 800hp street car, a few extra bucks for fuel isn't going to be a problem. How often are you going to want to be in stop-and-go traffic.

 

I have never understood the reasoning that forbids tire warmers as "too expensive" and yet wants to play with this questionable technological adventure no matter what the cost.

 

KERS in an F1 car provides 80 more hp for an 800hp machine. So its like adding a supercharger but for no drag or at no "cost". Its not about fuel efficiency its about extra hp.

 

True, but at the cost of money & weight. Those two thousand more revs mentioned above would be totally free, at least by F1 economics.

 

Max hasn't saved a penny---he's caused massive waste of team funds chasing his ever changing regulations every year.

I say either let KERS generate 150 HP for 12 seconds per lap (that would be interesting ) or drop it all together an let the V-8s rev to 22,000 rpm. The high redline route would allow the teams to really push the envelope of piston engine technology. KERS needed to be researched for another year before being introduced to F1, but I really think it could be exciting if perfected and unleashed.

To be REALLY exciting, I'd like to see the return of turbos, but that's asking too much.

 

And if you really wanted to push the edge, let them have whatever number of cylinders they please, (and whatever revs they can handle) with the only engine rules being a 3 litre displacement for NA and a 1.5L for boost, and a reasonable fuel chemistry set in writing.

 

I want to see true formula libre, where the only rule is that a car has to fit inside a certain size box