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  1. andy2175m4@yahoo.com

    [email protected] Formula Junior

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    #1 [email protected], Jun 16, 2009
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    I bought this rather hammered 1982 308 GTSi 8 months ago, and thought I might have it painted and running in 6 months....so far I have almost nothing to show for it....it's taking a lot longer than I thought. I have had to completely retool my expectations. I have worked on a lot of cars over the years, and if it continues this way, it will be the longest one yet. Now I am thinking I will be lucky if it's factory fresh in 2 years.....

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  2. Helmut

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    #2 Helmut, Jun 16, 2009
    Don"t feel bad about it, it happens to most of us. I bought a 78 308GTS, may be about 4 years ago and today the engine finally went back in. I took the entire car apart, had it sodablasted, reprimed frame and body, all the interior new, everything is new on the car and I am still wondering when it will see a road on its own wheels.
    I think that the trick about 308's is to do one, once you know those Italian puzzles it should be much faster the second time around. I would know exactly how to organise my project and how everything comes apart and goes back together now. There was a car on ebay that sold today, euro 308 and I almost went crazy enough to bid on it, thinking I could take it apart fully within a few weeks and know exactly where I would have everything rebuilt or redone, but thank god my sanity returned just in time and some other sucker got it :)


    Helmut
     
  3. mustardfj40

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    #3 mustardfj40, Jun 16, 2009
    Thanks for sharing. That's the thing about projects: they usually take more time, effort, money, and even blood than you expect.

    How well does your bearing puller work?
     
  4. b27

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    #4 b27, Jun 17, 2009
    I can relate to that Andy. Good luck and I look forward to following your progress.
     
  5. Newman

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    #5 Newman, Jun 17, 2009
    Only took me 5 years to do mine, good luck and keep the pics coming!
     
  6. b27

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    #6 b27, Jun 17, 2009
    Those sort of comments are not appreciated. ;)
     
  7. Newman

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    #7 Newman, Jun 17, 2009
    Actually 5 years 7 months lol.
     
  8. b27

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    #8 b27, Jun 17, 2009
    As we say in Australia.

    Shaddup.......... ;)


    p.s. Andy don't worry mate, I'm sure you'll have it back on the road soon. :)
     
  9. mwr4440

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    #9 mwr4440, Jun 17, 2009
    I fix mine in little bits.

    Tear it apart, fix it, Drive it. Wait a few months, wash, rinse & repeat.



    I figure about 8-11 years total time and I'll be done.


    3 years down and about only 7 more (likely) to go !!!!


    YEPPIE!!!!! :D


    I LUV THIS CAR :)
     
  10. andy2175m4@yahoo.com

    [email protected] Formula Junior

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    #10 [email protected], Jun 17, 2009

    The two arm did not work, now working on a home made 3 arm.
     
  11. t3thomas

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    #11 t3thomas, Jun 17, 2009
    14 months for me. Hoping for the first start up this PM and the first drive this weekend. My problem was that everytime I fixed one thing, two other things would break
     
  12. Chiaro_Slag

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    #12 Chiaro_Slag, Jun 17, 2009
    Be curious to know what issues you encountered to make you adjust your time frame by a factor of 4.

    What is unique to the Ferrari that you didn't encounter in your other restorations?

    Thanks for the insight!
     
  13. enjoythemusic

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    #13 enjoythemusic, Jun 17, 2009

    Ahhh yes, the Italian car passion. How are the costs coming along? About what you expected or less?
     
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    #14 Itsa GT4, Jun 17, 2009
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  15. flyingboa

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    #15 flyingboa, Jun 17, 2009
    Che bella! Complimenti
    Eugenio
     
  16. andy2175m4@yahoo.com

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    #16 [email protected], Jun 17, 2009
    so far I have not spent a lot of money, as the car was in fairly good shape, but the CIS is a PITA, and it's been a long time trying to tweak it to work. I just spend a year tweaking a Holley EFI system in a vintage Thunderbird, so I thought I was some kinda fuel injection expert, but the Bosch CIS is another story altogether. Have not spent a lot of money (yet) but have spent a lot of time trying to the the CIS to run right. I rue the day I will have to take it in for a California smog check. It's an 1982 so it's not exempt from anything.
     
  17. sammyb

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    #17 sammyb, Jun 17, 2009
    I figured three weeks and $500 and I'd be driving my GT4...that was back in January! Of course, it's been because I've gotten sidetracked, as well as my friend Bartmandial8 who has the car down at his shop. At least I put the distributors back together yesterday!!!
     
  18. andy2175m4@yahoo.com

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    #18 [email protected], Jun 18, 2009
    I thought I had a lot of tools, 30 years collecting, but every time I turn around, I have to seek out a special tool, and that's slowed me down a lot. Usually I have all the tools I need.
     
  19. AceMaster

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    #19 AceMaster, Jun 18, 2009
    hang in there andy, when it's all done it will be well worth it.....patience is the key.
     
  20. Jackmb1

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    #20 Jackmb1, Jun 18, 2009
    Wow, that's a project. Good luck.
     
  21. PSk

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    #21 PSk, Jun 19, 2009
    Nice!

    Pete
     
  22. theunissenguido

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    #22 theunissenguido, Jun 19, 2009

    Andy, heating up the surround area can help to pull those bearings.

    Guido
     
  23. andy2175m4@yahoo.com

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    #23 [email protected], Jun 19, 2009
    The further I dig into the engine the more work I find I need to do. Right now I am trying to get the timing belt drive bearings sorted out. Electrical system is pretty non-functional too. The body and paint and interior stuff is always finite though, it's not a mystery, just a lot of elbow grease.

    But major engine and electrical work on a 27 year old car is always a crapshoot.

    And, I am in danger of losing my free spacious garage, and if I do, I will have to do something drastic, like sell someting.

    The main thing that's slowing me down though is that I got a lot more busy at work inthe last 4-5 months and now I am lucky to get 1/2 day a week to work on this car. When I first started 8 months ago, I was able to work 2 - 3 full days a week on the car, not any more. That's the main thing. I have a life, but I also have cars. Hard to find time for both.
     

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