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ENZO Signature - Is this an authentic one?

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  1. hg

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    Look at the letter on the same post 19... the last sentence translated in italian says " I am enclosing a signed photograph" and the year appears to read 1988. You can make your own conclusion.
     
  2. spirot

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    I have an autograph from Enzo I got from him in 1983. Its on a factory brochure next to his picture sigend in purple felt pen. has a smudge at the end.

    Also have a sigend GoodYear print signed by him in the top right corner. circa 1987.

    I treasure both!


    Plus I have a moderate collection of racing driver autographs... all the big ones except Fangio. All were got by me or my parents. you name them I have them! from the late 80's all the way to the late 50's
     
  3. robertgarven

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    #28 robertgarven, Jun 16, 2009
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    Yes, he signed the card March 15, 1988, and passed away a few months later, August 14, 1988. This card and photo are my most prized possessions....... I worship this man!
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  4. piloti

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    I was referring to your statement
    I know there were printed signatures on various brochures, photographs etc, but are you saying that there were other non-original signatures besides printed ones?
    Nathan
    PS - I know that later signatures showed tremors - I have one sent to me personaly only a month before he died.
     
  5. 4re308

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    I have to admit that Robert Garvin has one of the latest Enzo sig's I've ever seen. This is a great thread.
     
  6. trashidelek!

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    Nathan, this is my understanding as well. In fact, I have one of Ken Lewis' (previous owner of Ferrari Literature) old catalogs that mentions a 1988 vintage signed card with a "very, very shaky" signature. I have heard that Enzo suffered from some sort of circulatory problem towards the end of his life that made walking and, apparently, signing his name difficult.
     
  7. piloti

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    #32 piloti, Jun 18, 2009
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    You're quite correct. See below - sent to me personally. Must be one of the last ever signatures. Date stamp is off the envelope that Piloti was sent in.
    Nathan
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  8. of2worlds

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    Very neat to see the special piece from your collection! What happened to the daily diary that Mr Ferrari kept??? Someone said it was locked away because of the personal nature...
    CH
     
  9. geno355

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    You can tell by his late signatures that this was a man with no "quit" in him. He toughed it out until the very end, true to the Ferrari spirit. What an inspiration.

    I just ordered a book called "Ferrari, the man", and I can't wait to read it.

    Geno
     
  10. 4re308

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    Well said Geno and I totally agree. Nathan, that is indeed a VERY late signature. WOW seeing the shakiness in your Piloti sig is amazing. True piece of history there my friend. I very much enjoy seeing it.
     
  11. AceMaster

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    Very well said, and I may order this book myself.
     
  12. trashidelek!

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    Lovely item. Thanks for posting the photos.
     
  13. LMike

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    Hi guys,

    When it comes to Enzo Ferrari autographed items why do post cards with Enzo's signature sell for far less on ebay than other items like more of a card of other sorts? Is it a matter of the signature together with a more desirable item? When they sell for $20 when signed to a postcard it gives the impression that Enzo's signature is not worth much. I noticed this pattern under the sold listings on ebay. I see signed "cards" (not a postcard) have sold for $1000, but an actual postcard sells for $20. Can anyone offer any insight on this?
     
  14. BigTex

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    As Morry posts earlier in this thread, some of his sigs are printed, not really a hand executed signature (which as Morry posts, add about $400 to 'whatever it is" it is on.)
     
  15. trashidelek!

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    Not all of the items that are simply signed are printed. It is rather sensitive to the context. For example, some of the paper cards, like the 90th birthday invitation, are printed. Signatures on items like the presentation books (the printed signature in the Big Red Book notwithstanding) are not as they were generally given out, in period, to more important people.

    There is a rather funny description about all of this in Brock Yates' book on Ferrari. In it, Enzo's office desk is described as being something of a "cookie jar" filled with all sorts of memorabilia "goodies" for visitors. These were given out based upon the status of the recipients. Relative nobodies got cards and keychains. Mild-level individuals received ties or scarves, while those of real importance received his books with a signature and, occasionally, an inscription. One day a visitor arrives and explains that for many years it has been their heart's desire to have one of his signed books. Enzo laughs. And, take it or leave it, offers up a scarf...
     
  16. 1974gt4

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    beautiful. thanks for sharing.
     
  17. BigTex

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    Well, I have many of the ties, they are nice......one came from Italy with an ashtray purlioned from the restuarant across the street!!!
     
  18. robertgarven

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    #43 robertgarven, Jun 30, 2013
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    He was a great man.........and have built a shrine to him. BTW I dont consider him a false idol! :)

    Not sure I have shared this here. There is an old Italian joke the Enzo sits next to God in heaven and when the faithful come to the gates God leans over and asks Enzo if he should let them in.


    Im hoping thats how it works! :p
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  19. piloti

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    Nice items. Are those signed cards, framed, on the wall? You may want to take them down and put them in an album or book, as they are quite likely to fade.
    I had a beautiful signed photo of Enzo with Mike Parkes which was signed by EF. It hung in my office for a couple of years, but when I took it down the signature had completely faded away. Now I keep mine in an album. A shame but it's better than them disappearing.

    Nathan
     
  20. LMike

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    Thanks guys for the help regarding my signature question a week or so ago. Love all of your collections, great pics!!
     
  21. spirot

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    or make sure its in archive glass.
     
  22. robertgarven

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    I dont get much light and he switched to a different pen in later years. The pen that faded I am pretty sure was a Flair purple felt tip. AICBM. I am 57 now so I wont live long enough to see them fade. I have to say they are my most important possessions on earth, next to the metal god he created in the garage! :p
     
  23. Aardy

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    #48 Aardy, Jul 17, 2013
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    I have this card stapled to the first page of my original 1958 Ferrari Yearbook.

    Any expert to confirm it's written by Enzo Ferrari himself ? Thanks in advance :
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  24. trashidelek!

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    #49 trashidelek!, Jul 17, 2013
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    For that one, I would say yes. The offset of the writing, ink coloration variation, the presence of a date, and the fact that the date is consistent with Ferrari's "convegno annuale" indicate that it is not a printed card. On the the other hand, the vast majority of the other "molti auguri" cards that one comes across are printed. You could also look at it through a microscope (from powers of about 10X to 50X) for further confirmation.
     
  25. Julius H.

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    very nice 58 yearbook with Enzo dedication stapled
     

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