Ex-Challenge car race at FCA National Event?

I hate to tell on myself but I was one of those guys who did not know what he was doing at Cavallino a few years ago I had just bought a F360 Spider and got the info on Cavallino. I signed up for the lowest level of track and it never said anything about knowing what you were doing - it said for inexperienced drivers - I certainly was one of those - I had 0 experience - no idea what a line was or anything - I got black flaged but it was lucky I did not kill myself or my wife who was with me or accidentally kill someone else on the track- still to this day she will not go on the track with me. It is pretty funny when we tell the that story to friends now but it was not funny then - the point is that I was let on the track and not instructed at all about what I really needed to know - i thought it was going to be a leisuryly drive

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don't worry, I know what I am doing now!!

 

Very sorry to hear about your friend

 

Rob I am sorry to hear about your loss. Sad story. He sounds like a good driver.

 

That's just not right!

 

All of the concerns expressed hear are valid. The contemplated series would be run under the FCA, with rules drafted similar to the Porsche club rules. Insurance would fall under the FCA.

As for saftely concerns, there will be licensing, tech, and very strict "no touching rules" which provide disqualification and probation for the first offence and a one year suspension for a second. The idea has been sprung by those who want to race in the Ferrari Challange Series, but are not Billionaires, or willing to spend $500K a season. The idea is the creation of a challenge series with a more reasonable cost to enter and run. The Ferrari Trofeo would be very different from the Factory Challenge series run according to pro-racing rules which, at times, encourages touching. The reason that there is momentum behind a stand alone series, is for those who want to race in a ferrari spec. series, with equal cars (the contemplation is only for 348.355,360 and 430CH cars, not GTs or mods), and those who dont want to race with mustangs and corvettes that may cost far less to fix. Like the Factory Challange, the Ferrari Trofeo would run in conjunction with the social aspects or pre-existing Ferrari event. Its already been done at Sebring and it was an amazing event. The porsche club has been hosting club events successfully for 20 years. With this years retirement of the 430CH there is gaggle of non-current challenge cars. The momentum and will is there. With participation and pending FCA approval, this will happen.

 

Rob

Very sorry to hear about your friend. Ive raced with the SCCA before. It is very competative. The series we have envisioned is more akin to vintage racing where the cars, comraderie and fun is stressed more than the competition. A very strict no-touching rule forces competitors to be more careful.

 

"As for saftely concerns, there will be licensing, tech, and very strict "no touching rules" which provide disqualification and probation for the first offence and a one year suspension for a second. The idea has been sprung by those who want to race in the Ferrari Challange Series, but are not Billionaires, or willing to spend $500K a season. The idea is the creation of a challenge series with a more reasonable cost to enter and run. The Ferrari Trofeo would be very different from the Factory Challenge series run according to pro-racing rules which, at times, encourages touching. The reason that there is momentum behind a stand alone series, is for those who want to race in a ferrari spec. series, with equal cars (the contemplation is only for 348.355,360 and 430CH cars, not GTs or mods), and those who dont want to race with mustangs and corvettes that may cost far less to fix. Like the Factory Challange, the Ferrari Trofeo would run in conjunction with the social aspects or pre-existing Ferrari event. Its already been done at Sebring and it was an amazing event. The porsche club has been hosting club events successfully for 20 years. With this years retirement of the 430CH there is gaggle of non-current challenge cars. The momentum and will is there. With participation and pending FCA approval, this will happen."




I think the approach is excellent, and I hope you succeed. A club race series will energize Ferrari related businesses, dealers and independents alike. New businesses will be created. IMO it will be fantastic for the Ferrari community.

I'd hoped you'd adopt a 13-13 rule.

May God help the initial head of tech/scrutineering. You'll need to find someone who's seen and heard it all, and can marshall the resources to try to verify "stock," and who isn;t afraid to make enemies in a very small world.

I encourage you to consider a home for the factory GT cars - good for spectators/sponsors/promoters to have them around.

Also would be good for everyone to have at least one "modified" class. I'd like to build a 575M based race car, for example. A lot of owners like to do their own thing, as I'm sure you know.

 

"One of these decades I will transition to the more vintage style."


Rob, I've participated in Porsche Club and can tell you the racing is pretty hard. Try running nose to tail in high horsepower cars without hitting someone, it requires a lot of control. People still run hard and close, the no contact rules are just something else to keep in mind. "Vintage style" sound pejorative, though perhaps you don't mean it that way. Even the vintage clubs vary dramatically in how tolerant they are of hard running.

And yes, I've raced in contact - high contact - series. Most of my racing now is SCCA.

Cheers, Will

 

I like it!!! I think you are on the right track! Ha! Who ever was in charge at the Sebring race had the right idea. If you run it like the Sebring Event you will have NO problems. When do we start!!!

 

Yes, it is true. It was the 2006 Cavallino. I passed tech, went to the drivers meeting and nobody said anything about experience, lines, etc. I was a new owner and just did not have a clue. After I got black flagged, returned to the pitts and sat at a table, my wife simply stated "do you think that was very smart, we have a kid in high schoool". One of the track staff came over to me and said he would take me out on the track later and give me some lessons but I had no fam before running. Since then, I have been to school twice and love tracking but when I look back at the Cavallino experience, I still get chills. To this day, I do not like Muroso(now Palm Beach)

 

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