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  1. jknight

    jknight F1 Veteran

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    #1 jknight, Jun 25, 2009
    from crash net

    Despite peace finally having seemingly broken out in F1 following the resolution of the FIA/FOTA civil war that threatened to tear the top flight quite literally in two, it appears teams are still a little incredulous and unconvinced that Max Mosley will actually see through his promise to relinquish the most powerful and influential role in international motor racing come October.

    Though he is adamant that his departure at the end of his current and fourth term in the post was 'planned, agreed, arranged' long before the conflict over his controversial budget cap initiative and autocratic and arbitrary manner of governance came to the fore, the FIA President's decision to step down has been viewed in some quarters as part-and-parcel of the eleventh-hour deal that saved the sport from the biggest schism in its history. If only some could believe that he will really go.

    Mosley has held the position since 1993, and after previously announcing back in June, 2004 that he would stand down that October, he was subsequently persuaded otherwise when the FIA Senate asked him to stay on. According to The Times, one team principal responded to the question about whether the Englishman was truly going this time with a cutting: “Only when I see the stake through his heart.”

    On face value, at least, the development – with Mosley immediately handing over the responsibility for liaising directly with the teams to Monaco Automobile Club President and President of the FIA Senate, Michel Boeri, though he will retain a certain say in matters – means the 'Max and Bernie' show is over, in reference to the long-running Mosley/Ecclestone double-act credited with having turned F1 into the global success story that it is today.

    Both men have ruled with a rod of iron, though ironically it is understood to have been the Formula One Management (FOM) commercial rights chief executive who had the final word in persuading Mosley to go, in the interest of protecting the sport given that in the absence of a satisfactory compromise the Formula One Teams' Association rebels planned to finalise their vowed 'breakaway' series the very next day, in the knowledge that the 'point of no return' had been reached. That crisis was averted – but only, it is contended, thanks to Mosley's acceptance that he had to go.

    Whilst the Englishman has suggested that F1 is now set for a period of prolonged peace and stability and 'a bright future where they (the teams) can make good profits', paddock cynics point out that such concepts have always been relative and transitory in the world's most glamorous sport, with off-track politics bubbling never far from the surface and frequently threatening to explode.

    With inflated egos and bitter rivalries, the next dispute never seems far away, and though the regulations are now on paper fixed until at least 2013, those in the know argue that controversy and intrigue will not be silenced for long. It is also mused that now FOTA has achieved its goal, the dissenting teams' unity may swiftly disappear as on-track tensions get in the way.

    “The sport itself is intrinsically controversial, unstable, political,” one senior team source is quoted as having said by Reuters. “I think it is the nature of Formula 1 that creates this situation.”


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    Steve, when does that night flight to the sun take off???

    Carol
     
  2. parkerfe

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    #2 parkerfe, Jun 25, 2009
    Mosely only said that he would not "run" for re-election. That does not mean that the FIA, if they are smart, will appoint him anyway due to his stellar performance over the last decade or so...
     
  3. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    #3 kraftwerk, Jun 25, 2009
    LMAO

    BTW It's Mosley not Mosely..but there again... I know your only kidding, your forgetting about LUCA!... He knows when to act.

    Porno is doomed! Mr and Mrs Spank are awaiting him to pay a short sharp trip to slapped Bottieland...;)
     
  4. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    #4 kraftwerk, Jun 25, 2009
    I'm not worried Carol, I laugh at danger and drop ice cubes down the vest of fear.


    Mosley is finished..lets face it what does he offer F1 one more word out of the clown and they really will walk.
     
  5. R2112

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    #5 R2112, Jun 25, 2009
    I know you're completely kidding but no matter how many times you state it...it's still funny! :D :D
     
  6. wax

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    #6 wax, Jun 25, 2009
    Fixed
     
  7. R2112

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    #7 R2112, Jun 25, 2009
    He won't be back...he knows better. ;)
     
  8. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    #8 kraftwerk, Jun 25, 2009
    Ahem!!
     
  9. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    #9 kraftwerk, Jun 25, 2009
    Clever!!..;)
     
  10. Jack-the-lad

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    #10 Jack-the-lad, Jun 25, 2009
    I've been saying this since yesterday. I deal with turds like this daily....the real negotiation begins after an "agreement" has been reached.
     
  11. teak360

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    #11 teak360, Jun 25, 2009
    I like the way you whipped that post in to shape...
     
  12. barbazza

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    #12 barbazza, Jun 25, 2009
    I dont believe that. The only way you could possibly deal with turds as bad as Mosley daily is if you run the largest sewage treatment plant in the world... :D
     
  13. kirill

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    #13 kirill, Jun 26, 2009
    As I said earlier - Hitler had a "non-invasion" agreement with Russia in 1941
     
  14. VIZSLA

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    #14 VIZSLA, Jun 26, 2009
    Hitler had an army. Max has imaginary friends.
     
  15. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    #15 kraftwerk, Jun 26, 2009
    Seems to me the FIA will once again be faced with the decision of whether it wishes to destroy F1 in order to keep its head, or decide that the Porno's imaginary friends have gone too far, and send him off to a secure unit gagged.
     
  16. VIZSLA

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    #16 VIZSLA, Jun 26, 2009
    Admit it Steve, you just don't want this thing to end:)
     
  17. Fast_ian

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    #17 Fast_ian, Jun 26, 2009
    :)

    I dunno know though - I'm starting to fear for *Steve's* health at this point..... ;) If the crazy man stays around any longer, we may have to lock Steve up for his own good :D
     
  18. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    #18 kraftwerk, Jun 26, 2009
    ha ha I do. Has there been any word on a reponse from Luca or FOTA, if not I read that as a good thing, just totally ignore the idiot best policy.

    Like you said in the other thread, a good part of the reason Mosley needs to go is because all the arguments normally stem from his stupid decisions.

    All I want is fair transparent racing where the best of the best duke it out.. not alot to ask for really is it..I'm really sick of the BS politics..removing Max has got to be a way forward in this regard.
     
  19. VIZSLA

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    #19 VIZSLA, Jun 26, 2009
    When Steve sounds sane I worry ;)
     
  20. VIZSLA

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    #20 VIZSLA, Jun 26, 2009
    Opps I assumed you were watching the tennis.
     
  21. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    #21 kraftwerk, Jun 26, 2009

    LOL I'm building a small nuclear weapon should do the trick!..but don't tell any one..;)


    You're all crazy and you're trying to steal my magic bag....:D
     
  22. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    #22 kraftwerk, Jun 26, 2009
    Well it's on, but it's boring apart from McNroe's commentary..:)
     
  23. VIZSLA

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    #23 VIZSLA, Jun 26, 2009
    I'm having trouble visualizing you among the gentle people sipping Pimms.
     
  24. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    #24 kraftwerk, Jun 26, 2009
    I'm having trouble with Vizsla Visualizing...thats it I'am losing the plot..;)

    I can mix it with the best if need be ...:)
     
  25. Tifoso1

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    #25 Tifoso1, Jun 27, 2009
    Judging from Maxie's most recent rant, I would say that the teams called it perfectly.
     

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