Ferrari stops development of F60

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Works especially well with german to english.


2010 Ferrari without Kers
From Petra Wiesmayer
27.06.2009 09:40:01
For Ferrari it will soon begin on the new car for 2010 to concentrate on the development and current F60 return.

Last year, Felipe Massa struggled until the last race for the World Championship title, 2009 was neither he nor his team-mate Kimi Räikkönen a chance in the fight for the title mitzumischen. Reason enough for Ferrari, the focus is already on next year to set up, then rose again up front to join.

Ferrari president Luca di Montzemolo told the team Web site that in Maranello soon would begin to focus on the car for 2010 to be directed. "If we at the beginning of the season, a car with certain characteristics, then it is difficult during the season without a test of a race to the other to change," said the Italian.

"I am confident that we can improve in the next race and then we will be fully on the car for next year focus without Kers, with clear rules." For the poor performance of the Scuderia 2009 makes Montezemolo among other things, the uncertainty in the Rules , especially when double diffuser, before and at the beginning of the season is responsible.

"Unfortunately we have very vague rules started. It was difficult to accurately interpret and the evidence is that the three teams that have won the last World Cup, Ferrari, McLaren and Renault, the rules are interpreted in the same way and now are not as competitive as before. "

This was also the reason why the FOTA for clear and unambiguous rules would fight, he said. "We want a stable, clear and transparent regulations. We have a car with Kers built with more weight and many other teams have one without Kers. If the FIA wants Kers so, then must be the same for everyone. I think it is time that we again have clear rules. "


If there's unclear sections running it in both translators normally gives you the gist. Where one is weak the other is strong.

 

I believe the biggest changes to the 2010 chassis will be the elimination of KERS, and the larger fuel cells. Does anyone here know for fact, is there something in the current rules that limits the size of the 2009 fuel cells?

Andreas, I think you know what I am suggesting.

 

That Ferrari can rid themselves of those troublesome pit stops a year early?

 

There will still be pit stops in 2010 to change tires. At least that is the deal so far. And personally, I hate to see the refueling go, great to watch.

David I am suggesting, or wondering actually, if within the current rules, the F60 body shell and chassis could be modified in contour and weight of the car with the new 2010 fuel tanks. Fuel cell size is limited now. Why not use ballast in the area that would house the larger fuel cells and race this car for the rest of the season? If this is possible, you are doing real time testing, and yet not violating the 2009 rules concerning testing. Yes, the car would likely be more of a dog because of its weight for the balance of this season, but if possible, you would have an advantage for 2010.

Anyway, Ferrari won't start working on the 2010 car until the new Concorde is signed and the 2010+ rules are established.

 

The whole car chassis and gear box needed to be completely redesigned IIRC just to get a diffuser to fit, thats why there was so much fuss over it, not a simple fix by along chalk.

So yes point 3 is dead right.

Oh BTW the Swiss produce some great tennis players there N02 nearly broke the Brits hearts tonight..

 

According to the German article you quoted Ferrari is NOT going to stop developing the F60 yet. Rendering this thread incorrect. The article quotes Luca saying that Ferrari will gain performance for the next few races and only after that they will concentrate on the 2010 car.

 

Sorry mate, but i think the key word in that sentence is "soon", meaning not just yet which is what Peter said. Maybe i misinterpreted it as well but thats just how i read it.

 

I'm sure they'll be concentrating on next year's car as soon as possible. However he promisses that the current car will be developed to a satisfactory level so that it can compete with the top for the rest of this year. It could all be hot air and he could be wrong about his assumptions but to say that they're packing it in doesn't rime with what he said.

 

Fair enough. Not trying to cause an arguement of any perticular kind, like you said who's to say how long "soon" is. Thats just how i saw it so sorry.

 

THE THING I LOVE ABOUT MY TEAM THE MOST IS OUR NON QUITTING SPIRIT!! NOW THEY REVERSE THAT AND QUIT WHEN THEY LOOK LIKE ABOUT 3RD BEST RIGHT NOW.
ATTITUDE NEEDS TO CHANGE.WE CAN MAKE THE SAME LEAPS AS RED BULL IF WE JUST SHUT UP,AND WORK.DEVELOPMENT OF NEXT YEAR'S CAR CAN BE DONE SUCCESSFULLY NOW IF THEY START NOW.MY IDEA OF SUCCCESSFUL IS A WCC-TYPE CAR,SO MAYBE FELIPE CAN PICK UP WHERE HE LEFT OFF AT INTERLAGOS.ALL YOU MASSA HATERS,KEEP IT QUITE,HE'S OUTPACING KIMI FOR THE SECOND SEASON IN A ROW(IM A BIG KIMI FAN).

 

Dude stop shouting it's hurting my ears.

After watching the German GP it seemed like we had made some progress with the car and perhaps they didn't abandon development completely?

 

You guys got it all wrong, let me explain.

A car is only as good as it performs relative to the competition. Brawn GP has not been performing as well as they have been making the F60 look good.

 

Yes, i'm quite impressed with Massa's ability to hold position on a heavier fuel load, and softer tyres. This past 2 races, Massa has been extremely impressive. 11th to 4th at Silverstone, and 6th(?) to 3rd at Nurburgring.

The next race at HUngary, could favour the Brawns. Hot, twisty and slow...and...yawn

 

Marc Gené said they´re going to bring a big evolution for Hungary, but I suppose it´s just something they already had in progress when they decided to focus on the new car. And the words from Massa in the post race conference insinuated that they are more interested in the next year.

Anyway, we´re doing relatively fine now. With a bit of luck, we can finish this year as best of the rest behind Red Bull and Brawn.

 

More on this.


Ferrari boss Stefano Domenicali says the team is preparing to stop development on its 2009 car and pour all its efforts into ensuring it is a title contender from the outset in 2010.

Felipe Massa's fourth and third places in the last two races - results achieved despite middling grid positions - have shown that Ferrari is regaining respectability after its abject start to the year.

But with the team acknowledging that this season's car will probably never be a match for Brawn or Red Bull, Domenicali said the focus was about towards its new contender.

"It will be very soon," he replied when asked if a change in emphasis was on the cards.

"We have already started some work on the new project, but in the next couple of weeks we will basically shift to the new project in order to make sure we do not lose any time because we know that next season will be crucial.

"We want really definitely to start with a different pace compared to this year.

"So it is a matter of days and weeks."

Domenicali said he was satisfied with how Ferrari had recovered ground in recent weeks, but suspects its position at the forefront of the 'best of the rest' pack behind Brawn and Red Bull would soon come under threat.

"I am positive and happy with the result today," he said.

"But we need to keep our feet on the ground because the others are not sleeping, if you look at what we have seen this weekend with Renault, McLaren and Force India."

He also admitted that the political rows that rocked Formula 1 this year - which saw Ferrari at the forefront of FOTA's campaign - had been something of a distraction.

"To be honest with you, I would have preferred to be more balanced for the management of the team," he said when asked if he had been able to maintain a good balance between politics and racing.

"But in this role we have to consider that it was a very critical moment for F1 and we have to ensure that we are doing our job.

"I feel a responsibility also being the principal of Ferrari with all that Ferrari means for Formula 1."

 

I wonder what he means by next season being crucial.

 

Massa's last shot at a WDC before Alonso gets there?
The last season before the rules are switched to make F1 run on diesel?

 

Domenicali's last year to prove himself before he gets the boot.