GIVE ME A BREAK, Shell V-power, Now it's Nitrogen enriched, Come on!

Ok, but it's still better than BP with "invigorate" which makes your old car run like new longer. I don't even wanna know what's really in that stuff, if there even is anything different than any other sort of fuel.

 

Missing a little something here fellas. What they are talking about is not clear because they don't want you to know because it is so darn simple and it works. By displacing carbon this compound really works at cleaning and keeping clean all parts of a internal combustion engine
Its not really fertilizer but rather a form of nitrogen of which their are many. It is in all likelyhood a boron compound and probably Methyl Borate added to the gasoline in a liquid form. You can create it in your own shop by dissolving Boric acid in Methyl alcohol actually one of the only solvents that it will dissolve in.
Other products contain boron such as Z-Max and AvBlend which is FAA o.k'd for piston aircraft for addition to oil and gasoline. Nothing new here really just a very progressive oil company reformulating and creating a much improved product with a funky marketing gimmic.

 

Yea, a gimmick that probably sets them apart for some. Why not ride on the "nitrogen thing" that is supposed to make your tires last longer? The whole V-Power is supposedly some additive that the truck delivery guy puts in when he's pumping gas into the gas station tanks. Whether he remembers to do it each time is probably another thing.

 

Marketers contribution to society

 

Chock full of wholesome goodness!

 

Pales in comparison to the bogus over the counter (back of the magazine) medical treatments.

 

Are you saying Extenz doesn't work?
I'm crushed

 

lol

 

Would the extra nitrogen help on "Trail Rated" vehicles also? I have a friend that has been using the extra hour given to us in the summer to haul Alpacas using a trail rated vehicle on his way to bring his son to some golf tourneys. I'm sure he would like to clean the carbon at the same time...

BT

 

I always buy Shell. Call it a marketing gimmick but I feel if they support the Ferrari team, that's good enough for me to buy their product. In some small way, I'm making a contribution.

I did see the Nitrogen thing though. I'm no chemist so it may be total bull. But, what about "Techron" that's been pushed for years by Mobile to keep valves and engines clean? Does that really work? What the heck is "Techron" anyway?

 

It isn't junk.

Shell discovered that nitrides of ogen hydrolyze unburned hydrocarbons and allows for more complete combustion resulting in greater power per kilogram of petrol and lower tailpipe emissions.

 

I saw the ads for Ni-enriched gas and wondered also because variations of nitrogen oxides are some of the nastiest tailpipe emissions that catalytic converters have to clean up. What benefit would adding even more Nitrogen be to the gasoline? It makes sense that it is actually some complex molecule designed to dissolve (displace, whetever) carbon on valves. I guess calling it nitrogen in marketing-speak makes it accessible to the non-chemist. Whether it works or not is questionable.

As for the turbo-swirly-intake thingie, I can't see how they would work to improve power in any way. Perhaps they actually provide a restriction in the air intake, the MAF sensor detects lower airflow and reduces the amount of fuel injected accordingly. The vortex generated of fuel droplets and air might atomize more completely (although I doubt it) and in theory give you a cleaner burning engine with a little less power than before, but it is more efficent. But sounds more like snake oil to me.

By the way, I know Seafoam has been discussed here before but I prefer it to Techron as a gas additive. One can about every 5000 miles does seem to help. If you have ever tried half a can in the crankcase and then change the oil afte 50 miles or so, the amount of gunk you get out is remarkable. I tried it in my old DD and the oil was completely black and opaque.

 

About 78% of the cost of a bar of soap is in the packaging. 'Nuff Said.

 

Oh, and 46.8% of statistics are made up on the spot.

 

So if the nitrogen disolves crud, what is it going to do to your seals, valve seats, hoses, fuel pump, fuel filter, fuel cell foam....?

 

I believe it's 91.7%.

 

82.5% of people always get that figure wrong.

And about the same amount will always fall for the same old crap so long as it's labeled "New And Improved."

 

"Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. Heyya! It's all ball bearings nowadays. Now you prepare that Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads, and I'm gonna need 'bout ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone. No, no make that Quaker State."

 

Techron was developed by Chevron. It is their trade name for a fuel system cleaner that contains Polyether Amines or (PEA). The are other brands also. Take a look at the MSDS. AFAIK the highest concentration of PEAs is in Redline SI-1 Fuel System Cleaner. And yes, it does work.

 

Fletch ?