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Do you think a 19" wheel will fit?

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  1. chromeitcycles

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    Saw these on ebay, looks like a great deal! I emailed the seller and he said he would sell me 4 fronts if I wanted. How do you think these would look on my 82 308 gtbi? I know the 18" 360 wheels will work by past threads, but these are 19" and slightly wider. Any input? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/19-Ferrari-Modular-Wheels-3PC-style-Rims-348-355-360_W0QQitemZ230357032005QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item35a2595c45&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1171
     
  2. DonJuan348

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    Yep! and would look SWEEET! ....but the purist with differ with my view.


    just DO IT!
     
  3. Steve Magnusson

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    Are you including the cost of the bolt-on adapters that you will need to make up for the offset difference? One downside is that your stock brakes will look very, very small inside such a large diameter wheel.
     
  4. chromeitcycles

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    The brake size was a concern...if I use 4 front wheels, what size adapters would I need? I am just thinking about doing this nothing set in stone...I have 16" Ferrari wheels on it now and it looks fine...I like the tall wheels, short rubber. Have 22" on my H2 and love the look, ride a little rougher.
     
  5. chrismorse

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    I installed 7.5x18 360 wheels with the recommended 20 mm spacer and a 225x40 goodyear.The car is also lowered a bit too - but entering a driveway at even moderate speeds the tire would contact the inner edge of the right fendar and bend the metal down. This was accompanied by an ugly noise.

    The only thing that made this work was raising the car and installing stiffer sway bars.

    One side benefit to installing larger wheels is that even the front 225x40-18 wheel and tire will not fit in the spare compartment, so, no spare, or if you have a flat, you hope you are in cell range of AAA.

    But, the car looks better, has more room for bigga brakes and the handling is immediately improved at a small penalty in ride harshness.

    The 8.5 width might require raising the front a bit. The back might require a spacer to keept the tire off of the spring, depending on the offset.

    hth,
    chris
     
  6. Steve Magnusson

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    #6 Steve Magnusson, Jul 15, 2009
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    The stock 308 chassis is set up for a wheel offset of approx -11mm. If the offset of the (front) wheels you are considering are -35 mm, you'd need a ~24 mm spacer to closely match tire centerline locations -- so the nearest commercial size is probably 25 mm (and if you needed to push the wheels a little more to clear the suspension bits then they'd be a little thicker). At 25 mm thickness (or greater), it's better to use the bolt-on type spacer (i.e. Hill Eng. Type 2) rather than the bolt-thru type spacer with longer lugbolts (i.e. Hill Eng. Type 1). My personal feeling is 8.5" at the rear would be great (and people have fit 9" wide rear wheels without too much trouble, but not 10"), but 8.5" at the front is just too big/heavy/wide.
     
  7. F&M racing

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    #7 F&M racing, Jul 15, 2009
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    360 wheels will only fit if you cut them (rears) or run spacers and jack up the ride height to clear fender lip unless you do what I did. So you say these wheels are wider, forget it. I'm running a trick narrow body shock, 15mm spacer with an uncut 10 in. 360 rear wheel and it just makes it. I just received the shocks and springs Monday and it was alot of research, $$ and measuring to get this to work. I will write a thread on how I did this shortly.
     
  8. mwr4440

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    Im a (near) purest (Superformance 16's on mine).

    ANY CHANGE to a 308 and you are "WRONG." Oh, So "WRONG."

    Respectfully, my 2 Cents (EU)
     
  9. Easyrider7467

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    I feel that you would really need to do up the brakes (aesthetically) too. Otherwise you have a geat looking wheel and old worn appearing calipers, etc..... Details man; details...

    Is the car gonna look like a 4x4 (sort of) given the height of the wheels? The wheels are really nice.....
     
  10. Glen_Lloyd

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    Even if you get them to fit I think you will not like the ride... not enough suspension to make up for the lack of tire sidewall. If you have suspension mods in mind then maybe. And I run 18" 360 wheels so I have a bit of a clue what I am talking about
     
  11. tommott77

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    #11 tommott77, Jul 15, 2009
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    Just my 2 cents...........

    I have absolutely no problem with aftermarket wheels, in fact if/when I finally find my 308 there is a pretty good chance that I will find a different set of wheels to play around with while I let the originals sit in a garage waiting until I sell the car or take it to a show but,,,,,,,,,, I am a huge proponent of using "period correct" aftermarket pieces on all classic cars. Let alone any size, fitment, suspension, brakes issues I personally feel that older cars wearing more modern parts just look silly, and that goes for just about every single make and model of any car ever made (the only exception being the Foose style wheels you see on all the muscle resto-mods these days, but part of the point of those cars is bringing the whole automobile back up to date).

    To me a 308 is just about to become a classic car and you will be loosing any bit of street cred with the classic car folks with those wheels on there. Those 360 wheels would look like you wish you had a newer Ferrari instead of embracing what one day might be a more highly regarded car in the pantheon of Ferrari. To me a proper after market setup for a 308 would be a 16" BBS 3 peice gold mesh wheels. The predominant aftermarket wheel for high end sports cars of that period, they would also look absolutely *****in on a red or black 308.

    Again just my opinion, and we all know what those are worth.
     
  12. 308 milano

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    I put 18" rims on my porsche 993 and it rode like a lumber wagon, HATED the ride. Just my 2 cts. but I think 19" would look silly on a 308. sorry.
     
  13. RVIDRCI

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    Survey says.... NOPE !! m-aay-be a 17" compomotive 288GTO look, but for me thats the max. Stick with period correct, otherwise it looks like a ricer/tuner or worse Snoop Dogs F-ride, yo, yo....
     
  14. 2NA

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    Really wrong in so many ways.
     
  15. Michael B

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    Oh my... All this talk about "aesthetics" ("love the look" - "stock brakes will look very, very small") and not one word about actual performance... What has this Ferrari board come to?

    How about:

    The overall diameter of these 19's if too large will decrease acceleration performance.

    And...

    The added unsprung weight per 19 inch wheel/tire combo will be detrimental to the handling...

    And...

    You folks care about how dinky the brakes LOOK, how about thinking performance?.. Not just how cool (or uncool) they look.

    Form should FOLLOW function people!

    Get a quality performance manufactured forged wheel that is lighter than the factory wheel/tire combo and has the same (or slightly smaller) overall tire diameter. Then you can have something that actually adds to the car in many facets.
     
  16. Fred2

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  17. RVIDRCI

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    #17 RVIDRCI, Jul 15, 2009
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    Actually, I think you would be hard pressed to find an aftermarket wheel that would perform as well and be as light as a factory magnesium alloy 16" QV wheel, tire choice on the other hand increases with a 17" diam. I stick to my guns though, both asthetic and performance wise. There are still some great modern tires avail for the 205/55, 225/50 X 16 set up, BF Goodrich, Goodyear F1's, and the awesome Bridgstone Potenza Pole Positions.
     
  18. F&M racing

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    #18 F&M racing, Jul 15, 2009
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    Your wrong about the 360 wheels on a 308 is that we wish we had a newer Ferrari, it just so happens that I like the look, the same for early Porsches with modern parts !! If I wanted to put 20's on a 69 Camaro that doesn't mean I wish I had a 2010 Camaro. Nothing to do with wanting a newer car.
    I like older cars modified, stock cars do nothing for me. Old and New works well together for me. Every car I own is modified.
    Just my opinion, different strokes for different folks, if we all had the same tastes it would be a boring world.
     
  19. SoCal308GTSiQV

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  20. RVIDRCI

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    Nothing wrong with modifying older cars (read my profile :) But the iconic look of the 308 is diluted with large diameter wheels, call me old school, fast & furious,.... but old school when it comes to looks.

    -my .02
     
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  24. Tokyo Drftr

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    what ever happen to the car in the second photo. Was up for sale awhile back no?
     
  25. robertgarven

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    #25 robertgarven, Jul 16, 2009
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    wheels are easy to change but if you want 19 wheels buy a 430 if you cant afford one like me please dont make a perfectly good 308 look like a pimpmobile. Just my opinion. a 16" wheel on a 308 will probably give you the max performance the car was designed for. I am into esthetics and I think the large wheels even look weird on the new cars....

    You could always go for a tweel!

    Rob
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