1;IIRC speedTV isn't life. 2; I'm confident that TV networks get the same shots we get, they just add commentary for it so it was probably the guys behind the scenes (IE not affiliated with SpeedTV but probably with FOM or whoever deals with it) saw it coming.
Just to add, if kimi's exhaust was loose like it was at magny-cours last year, I'm pretty sure he would get the black/orange flag this time.
Ian: As I have stated, I am not in favor of a ban on Brawn, nor do I think the ban on Renault was a very well thought out response by the FIA. The problem that I have with the FIA action is the "may knowingly" part. On the one hand they say the team failed to notify FA, on the other they say "knowingly" let the car leave pit lane. I do not know, as I am not privy to race communications from the Renault team, but if the chief engineer "knew" about the problem before the car left pit lane, it is likely that he would have said something to FA about it when something could have been done (ie. before the car left pit lane). Once the car left pit lane, nothing could be done. All of us watching could see that the wheel cover was loose and FA could likely feel it. I think the timing of the communication is somewhat critical. RF wheel changer has to tell chief engineer either in person or on radio "eh hallo chief, I screwed the pooch on that last tire change". By the time that happens, the car is at the end or out of the pit lane. At that point, they are committed to the lap or to retirement, which ever comes first. It is inconclusive that they "knowingly" let the car out in an unsafe condition. If proof exists, the FIA should make that clear. In this case, FA crawled around, going from leading the race upon pit in to returning to the pit almost a lap down on three wheels. His race was ruined which is penalty enough. A ban for the next one is just piling on....perhaps not a smart move when BMW has anounced their pull out for next season, Renault is teetering with a $3.8bn loss for the first half of 09 and Mercedes saying that they are not sure that F1 makes sense monitarily.
I hope that those unknowns will be resolved at the hearing. Until then it does seem that Renault committed what can be described as wanton disregard of safety. The FIA can start to redeem itself by conducting an open and fair examination of the facts.
I think SpeedTv is delayed 30-60 seconds - very annoying when you watch live timing from F1.com I agree on official FOM feed for everybody, but I believe they do get some un-official feed as well. That kangaroo TV's with feed from driver cams. That's how they were able to show the Massa's incident from on board. They can also do a frame by frame playback from official the feed. Obviously they weren't able to tell the cameraman at the circuit - let's have the nice shot of Kimi's exhaust departure. But they were ready to do frame by frame replay.
I think Renault should counter-sue FIA for negligence in not doing anything about Kimi at Many Cours and endangering Renault's drivers who might of gotten hit by that exhaust. Than settle for no ban.
The delay is at times a lot longer than that. Try following the posts from the UK during the next race weekend, they're commenting on Q3 while SPEED hasn't finished with Q2.
Golly its been so long since there was a race on SPEED I've forgotten There is a delay then as well but it may not be as long.
There is a difference between doing something knowingly and doing something bad with intent to do something bad. FIA can't say that Renault intended to have the wheel not secured properly, nor Brawn drove out of pits with intent to drop a spring and hit somebody. But FIA with a benefit of hindsight telling Renault they didn't make a right decision ....
The Renault continued to be driven even as it was known that the tire would come off. This was Tire Roulette.
You mean the difference between malfeasance , misfeasance and nonfeasance? Under proper circumstances all are actionable. If the FIA contention is correct Brawn did not knowingly send a dangerous car on to the track and Renault did not correct a dangerous situation once aware of it. Given past examples I do not expect the FIA to act fairly but in that they (Max) have not made any inflamatory statements in the interim I remain cautiously optimistic.
That's a shame. The iphone software Steve Matchett was talking about during the Hungarian GP sounded really cool. But if there's a delay it's useless
I was interested in that app too. I don't know if there's a delay involved there or not. I suspect if the feed is from the FIA directly there wouldn't be. Let me know if you learn any more. A quick check showed that the app in question is not the SPEED TV one but the Infindo one.
My understanding is it's a live feed on the phone (which you have to pay for on a race by race basis by the way ) but if the televised feed is delayed, it will mess up your ability to follow what's happening. Like, for example, when there are pit stops and you look to see where the other cars are on track. You'll see it on your phone before the car exits the pits on TV.
I only took a quick look buy I think its a yearly cost. You're right about the delay screwing things up using it while watching SPEED. Its almost as if they didn't even care
At the end it boils down to - what Renault did to piss off Mosley lately..... They are part of breakaway series and gave Max a finger.... Guilty.
