Yes...too bad we do not live closer together. Can you imagine the trouble Bruce and I could cause you if we moved to Boulder?
Bruce would have an air tight lip lock on that tank... you dont swallow Bruce, that would create a host of problems (we have to take him along slowly, he knows the still in the back yard but this is new territory) The Internet...serious business! How's that for screwing up a perfectly good thread for Sy?! Sorry.
No you don't because you suck the little ones dry to fast. Heck that one will only last you one sitting.
Its just one of those unique opportunities where Bruce isn't here to defend himself. Cant pass that up! In the middle of cleaning the garage up now to have the sheet rock finished and then the lump comes out of my car. We should be roughly on the same time schedule...
Agreed, I know its been discussed before but anyone got any new info on the best system to use...Don't they make a direct injected system that works with the 348....Anyone in the USA have any history of installing them into the 348...I think i remember some guys in Europe getting it installed by NOSWizards because they give you a guarentee on the motor..
Micheloto engine, 430hp @ 9000 rpm ;-) That was a cool car. It looked a bit like what would be the 550 later if I remember well. To get more power you need more air to come in the engine. The easiest way is to use bigger cams to maintain the same volumetric efficiency at a higher RPM and you get the power shifted of about the same amount, not too hard when you think about it The 355 rods can probably handle 9000 rpm with lighten pistons and deliver more than 400hp with the ECU remapped. 348 would definitely need a new set of pistons and rods.
That must have been the slow one. There was also a 480 bhp @9400 rpm version raced at Le Mans as well.
430 hp was the output power with required intake restrictor. The same year some folks I knew (Welter) had a V6 that delivered almost 500 hp, falling at less than 420 hp with the restrictor... even if they advertised 500 hp to their sponsors 430 real hp on a race car is a lot of power. Today we can do better, we know how to keep Mach 1 at the restrictor because we have simulation available to almost any guy that knows what to do with a computer. It was not the case in the mid 90's and restrictors were designed on experience and feeling. I remember some companies in France that were specialized in providing restrictors for race cars. I don't think they do that anymore.
I do not think so. The 348 held up the Ferrari name in 1990. It was the F355 that dropped the ball. The F355 looked good like a mistress who can't cook. The 348 made 300hp and later 320hp in the SS model. Don't forget the 348 ran from 89-94 just like the 964 porsche 911 which made only 247HP and the C4 vette only made 250hp. The 348 made 50hp more than it's significant competition of the early 90's. The later Porsche variants 964 RS made 260hp and the 964 turbo only made 315hp. I say the 348 matched it's competition much better than the F355 did. And the 348 was the base for many more racecars. It started the challenge series. There were michilottos, LM versions, IMSA versions campaigned as well as many once off special versions. It's engine is a very close cousin of the 333SP too and was the enzo test mule. Contrast that with the F355 @ 385hp vs the C5 vette with 345hp and the viper debut in '93 had 400hp and the porsche 993 911 @285hp while the 993 GT2 porsche and 993 turbo where @ 425hp and more of the F355's real competition and basically beat the 355. In fact the 993 turbo was the fastest production car of it's day. Hope that makes your F355 oil boil... Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I know Porsches pretty well (far better than Ferraris) and.. you compare a 3.6 twin turbo with a N.A. 3.5. There's nothing amazing getting 425 hp from the TT, even with 2 valves per cylinder. The F40 delivered more than 470hp with a less than 3 liter engine. But anyway I wouldn't compare a Porsche to a Ferrari, these have two totally different spirits. Porsche are production cars that are easy to race with, while Ferraris are race cars that have been calmed down. The 348 is the only Ferrari I know of a bit (got one, not for a long time, but drove it enough to know it a bit) and I was somehow disappointed compared to, let's say an European 964 RS with only 260 hp. The 911 handles better on the track, has a back-pack (rear engine) that allows to take the corners very fast. I wouldn't make such a beautiful poster for the 348 compared to the 964. I even think that the 348, with so many good features on the paper (F1 implantation of components) has been somehow disappointing. It's a bit better than the mass production Porsche, for some more money. Most French guys in that time claimed that the F348 was pretentious. The 964 didn't look like a super car, but was definitely efficient, especially when you look at the rear drive trains... At the Europa club for instance it was common to have 348, 964 and 993 playing together. The acceleration of the 348 wasn't fulgurous compared to the 964 while on the paper it should be far faster, I remember the joke that was that the Italians don't know how to count horse power, and that in this dry country 300 poor thirsty horse power were the equivalent of 250 German or English HP... I personally don't think so, the transmission ratio is simply shorter on the Porsche, but that was how people would denigrate Ferrari at that time. Now, I think there was some jealousy under that, because the 348 was a damned beautiful car! The sound of the V8 drove me crazy (Porsche engines don't have this magic) and the gravity center of the car gave such a joy. The 355 provides such sensation, and that's only what we want don't we ? If what you want is something that is wonderful from an engineering point of view, get an M3 (E46) : the S54 engine, developing more than 340 hp for a N.A. 3.2 that almost doesn't need maintenance, delivering a constant torque from 2000 to 7000, red line at 8000, has a lot of lessons to give. I have had one two, only for three months and loved it. But man, I'm going to buy a 355 F1 or would even go for a 348 because THAT is a dream car, even if my track 964 will never be followed by a Ferrari
Well...you know mostly my post was there to get a rise out of Goth. I know in the end a 348 could be beat by Goth dual turbo 355 running off his two hairdryers driving the turbos instead of a parasitic drain on the motor.
Would such changes really be for a 'race only' application or is that something you could enjoy with a daily driver? When you're talking about these lumpy cams... presumably you can't enhance the top end of the rev-range without compromising the lower. So how badly is the lower end (and idle) compromised? It'd be interesting to find out, as I find the idea of a 348 that revs to 9,000-9,500rpm quite exciting! All the best, Andrew.
