Stolen car...please help

Simon^2 · Aug 13, 2009

Peloton25 said: ↑

Maybe his "legal team" finally told him to zip it?

>8^)
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Just curious... has anyone ever posted on F-chat from the Slammer?

topcarbon · Aug 13, 2009

Simon^2 said: ↑

Just curious... has anyone ever posted on F-chat from the Slammer?
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where do you think I am posting from?

KKSBA · Aug 16, 2009

You couldn't pay me to be a cop. I would get so pissed off sorting through everyones BS. What a waste of time.

writerguy · Aug 18, 2009

meow

Insurancefraudinvestigatr · Sep 2, 2009

Simon^2 said: ↑

Just curious... has anyone ever posted on F-chat from the Slammer?
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I wouldnt know. What I do know is that I was told yesterday that the case against me has been dismissed. For those of you who didn't rush to judge me and offered some helpful advice...thanks. People like you are the cornerstone of whatever is good about america's justice system. The rest of you who rushed to to judgement and kept looking for me to be guilty of something really need to work on that knee jerk "Jerry Springer Showist" perspective on life. You guys represent the worst of America.

Etcetera · Sep 2, 2009

Insurancefraudinvestigatr said: ↑

I wouldnt know. What I do know is that I was told yesterday that the case against me has been dismissed. For those of you who didn't rush to judge me and offered some helpful advice...thanks. People like you are the cornerstone of whatever is good about america's justice system. The rest of you who rushed to to judgement and kept looking for me to be guilty of something really need to work on that knee jerk "Jerry Springer Showist" perspective on life. You guys represent the worst of America.
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I don't think many people here thought you were guilty.

Just stupid.

Billy10mm · Sep 10, 2009

Korr said: ↑

I don't think many people here thought you were guilty.

Just stupid.
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Okay, I just stumbled on this thread and I've got to say F-Chat people are some of the most sinister in the forum world. I've just lost like 2 hours of my life reading this thread and some of you guys are both brutal and absolutely mindless.

Why is Ra stupid Korr? He happens to be married to someone involved in an auto theft case and he loosely fits the description of the culprit. After meeting his accuser, his accuser instantly realizes that Ra is NOT the bad guy. OP/accuser then comes on F-Chat and publicly apologizes to Ra and admits to everyone here on F-Chat that Ra is NOT the guy in question.

All of a sudden everyone comes out of the woodwork demanding Ra begin an investigation. He's been told he needs to question his wife, talk to the police, and post to F-Chat from jail where he belongs with the rest of the scum of the earth. The only thing this guy did wrong was be married to someone for 22 years who MIGHT be involved in an auto-theft. Why should he be responsible for questioning his wife? Where are the police? Why haven't they already taken the wife's ledger?

Let's look at this from Ra's point of view. Leads a respectable life, has a large family ... finds himself on Crime-Stoppers TV one day for what reason he has no idea. Cops blunder the entire thing and it takes apparently days if not weeks to figure out that he is NOT who the OP thought he was. His daughter finds this thread on F-Chat (embarrassing in its own right) and after he comes here to clear his name, NO ONE gives him benefit of the doubt. Reading through this thread over the past 2 hours I've had to cringe at some of the accusations and wording in some of these posts to both the OP and Ra.

Some of you people are truly vicious. Sounds like the real "Blunder" tag should be stapled to the police department for what they've done and not done so far.

JM4re · Sep 10, 2009

F-chat viscious?

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Sfumato · Sep 7, 2017

Bill Ng said: ↑

Okay, I just stumbled on this thread and I've got to say F-Chat people are some of the most sinister in the forum world. I've just lost like 2 hours of my life reading this thread and some of you guys are both brutal and absolutely mindless.
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Initially many here were helpful. The longer the thread went, the more BS flags went off. Do you really think PD's, DA's, attorneys work as described here?
Please. How old is this thread? How idiotic is it to sell a car this way?
Sinister? Brutal? Mindless? GMAGD break. Whole thing stinks, and why would some moron come post here about it?
BS, poseurs, and morons all meet with ugly ends on every board. The fact this idiotic thread has run for what, nearly a year?
You find it today, and you're the arbiter?
I only look in for the compounded idiocy, figured there would be some new twist of BS. Found your comments instead. Not even aimed at me, but I know a lot of guys in here well, Korr included, and they don't hammer people that don't beg for it.
You want merciless (and hysterical), check out http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256232 .
Some guys from a Vette board came looking for a BS meister. This is more of same, and many of the people who tried to be helpful early on have had it.

OP has not posted since #288, 7/28/09. Last on FC 8/20/09.
Insurance whatever posts 7/27/09, day before OP leaves.
IP of insurance boy matches another troll from board.

So get off your judgemental high horse, pull your head out, and see what is really happening in this thread.
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writerguy · May 26, 2010

Spring Cleaning time

Anyone want to update this dreck?

dmaxx3500 · May 27, 2010

ya,matt,ins guy and his wife,all went to fed prison for stupidy,,i can't beleive i read all 27 pages of this crap

WJGESQ · May 27, 2010

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Well I never thought I would need the help of the Fchat police but I hate to admit I have come upon a pretty bad situation. It's a long story but if you got the time I appreciate any advice as I have seen the power and knowledge this place can hold.

The story goes that I had decided to sell my car. I had placed my 2006 Infiniti G35 coupe on Autotrader to get the payments off my back. I drive 3 miles to work and back and the money I was shelling out for it didn't seem to justify the little time I used the car. So it sat on there for a month and had a few bites but they all ended up falling through.

I was contacted one day by a guy named "James" while I was at work who stated he was looking for a 6spd coupe and had seen mine online. I told him a few details about the car and told him I was busy at work and that I would contact him when I got home. Fast forward to that night I call the guy up and we have a chat about the car, where he lives, where he is from, what he does, and he seemed to be a genuine nice guy. He claimed to own a construction company he had inherited from his dad and had been living in the Tuscaloosa Al area for a few years. He claimed to own a Cadillac CTS and had just bought a work truck but was wanting a sports car. It was late on a Friday and I couldn't get in touch with my bank until Monday so we had to let it rest. Through the course of the weekend he contacted me with a few small questions and again we chatted about random stuff.

Monday comes and I'm on vacation all week. I had planned to go to Florida to see my family so I contacted "James" to see if we could get it done that day. We conference called my bank and he asked my guy a few questions about the routing number and where he needed to send the money. My banker told him all the information and we ended the call. I told him I was heading out of town for the week and that I needed to get everything taken care of. He stated he was leaving on Friday and was going to be out of town as well. We came upon the agreement that once he had wired the money I would meet him and give him the difference of what I owed on the car as well as the vehicle. I told my bank this and they stated that we needed to put together a bill of sale. No problem. I contact "James" and he says no problem and that he would write up a bill of sale. Fast forward a few hours..."James" claimed that he had wired the money but when I called my bank they said it was too late for them to check to see if it was recieved. So...

That night I drive my car to Birmingham with my girlfriend following me. The whole way there I was on the phone with the guy as we decided where to meet as he claimed to be coming from Tuscaloosa. We agreed on an exit just off the interstate. I pulled up at about the same time he did. Get out of the car and shake hands and he checks out the car. He was driving a black truck and had another guy with him that I didn't see. We hung out for a few minutes and he looked over the vehicle. He pulled out a copy of the bill of sale and I read it over. It stated that I was selling him my car for the price I was asking and he was paying it off. It had a notarized stamp on it that appeared to be legit and to be honest I never once doubted this guy. After talking for a bit I handed over my keys and the car, shook hands and that was that. As I pulled out he contacted me to let me know that I was about to go the wrong way towards home and that I needed to go down a different exit. What a nice guy huh.

The next morning I rent a car and hit the road on vacation to Florida. Around 10AM I contact my bank to check on the wire. "No sir..we don't see it yet. Hmmmm seems strange so I contact James. He answers the phone and agrees that it's weird too. That was the first butterfly feeling I had but I didn't want to get crazy yet. He says he will check and see what the problem is as soon as he gets off work. I get in to Florida and call him up. He says that he think there is a problem with my account number. I call the bank..get my account number and call this "James" guy back. I ask him to read me the number he has and "suprisingly" the 2 he had in my account number was a 3. Right ok whatever. He claims that he will resend it in the morning and that it was his mistake

I wake up the next dayand contact him. Again he says he is at work and I tell him that we need to get this taken care of asap. He gives me the "no problems" and the "I'm so sorrys". Around 3 he calls me up and says it has been resent correctly and that it should be there. I call the bank and sit there on hold until 5 minutes after they closed with no answer except that I could leave a message. I hang up pretty ticked at the situation

Now before I go on I know how stupid this all was of me now that it is all said and done. I never should have trusted this guy and this is all my fault. I honestly believed him to be a good guy and that he intended on buying my car. I'm a pretty good judge of character I thought and didn't think that this guy would cross his fingers and go this far to get his hands on my car. It would have been a lot less work to go bust out a window and hot wire a car. He had the balls to meet me face to face and spend that much time bull****ing with me I never honest suspected it. Even when I met up with him I didn't see in his eyes any bad intentions or seem like a crook. I know there are probably a few people on here saying YOU DUMB A**! Trust me guys I agree...but that doesn't help me now.

So Thursday comes and I wake up early (on my vacation) and immediatly call the bank. No suprise when my banker says he doesn't see a wire for my account. I hang up and jump on the phone and call "James". No answer....butterflies again. I called at least 40 more times over the next few hours and then I accepted it. I got hustled. Plain and simple. So I do what anyone would do in my situation does...call the police right.

You would think that I could have reported it right away but that was not the case. I contacted the Tuscaloosa police department to start with and was told I would need to contact the Birmingham police department since that is where the "incident" occured. No problem...call up the Birmingham police and explain my situation as briefly but as detailed as I can. I tell them it's stolen and I need to get it reported. The cop on the other end proceeds to tell me that it is a civil case and I need to come to Birmingham to file a civil suit! Now I know as good as you all do that "James" isn't James and that there is no way he is going to show up for a civil suit! Come on. But that is what the cop tells me I got to do. So I have to cut my vacation in Florida short and drive 4 hours north just to file a report!

I arrive in Birmingham as early as possible on Friday and roll into downtown. I head up to the building they said I need to go to and the ladies in the office tell me I am in the wrong office. Suprise...they state I need to go down the road to the criminal office to file my report. No kidding...so I hit the road and run down to the bulding they say I need to be in. I walk in the door and tell the lady at the desk that I need to report a stolen car. She starts off with "When was it stolen"? I tell her Monday and she hits me with "Well why did you wait this long to report it"?!! I calmly explain my situation and she then tells me I need to go to the police department closest to where the incident happened which is a few miles down the road. I bust out the door and jump in my rental car and make my way to the "correct" place.

I walk in the lobby and there is a cop in his mid 40's sitting at the desk. I tell him I need to file a report for a stolen vehicle and ask if he could help me. He claims that all the officers are busy at this time and that it will be at least 5 hours before somebody can even sit down and get my information. I ask him if he can do it and he stutters that he has to watch the front desk. My blood begins to boil. I ask him where I can go to get this car reported asap and he tells me I should go to the other police department RIGHT NEXT TO THE BUILDING I HAD JUST LEFT!!!!

So I hit the road in my POS rental car and track down the OTHER police department. When I walk in a young detective maybe my age ask me what I am there for and I tell him to report a stolen vehicle and he looks at me with a puzzled look and ask "When was it stolen"? I tell him the exact same thing I told clerk #1 that the incident occured Monday and again he hits me with "Why did you wait this long?" I was so mentally exhausted at this point after the week I had I looked at him and said that I would gladly explain that if he could just find me somebody who would take my statement. He rolls his eyes and lets me sit in the lobby for a good 15 minutes.

Finally a detective comes out and invited me into the back office. I proceed to tell him the whole story and he is giving me the "You dumb a$$" look the whole time. As he is filling out his report I glance over and notice 3 boxes full of reports with hundred in each one. I ask him if those are all reports that they have recieved and he shootss back that that isss classified information and he cannot discuss that with me. I begin to realize I am about to become part of the stack. He gives me a case number and says that they will contact me sometime next week.

Monday comes around and I call up my insurance guy and let him know the situation and he says I will have to get him a copy of the report before they can file a claim. I contact the Birmingham police and they say that my report isn't ready yet and to check back. I recieve a call from a detective that says he is with auto theft and that he had a few questions. I gave him everything I could over the phone and faxed him copies of my "bill of sale". He says he will contact me.

It took two more days to get confirmation that I could finally get a copy of my report. They offered to mail it but I wanted to get my claim going so I drove an hour back to Birmingham to pick it up. I stopped by my insurance agent and dropped off a copy and he said that he would send it off to them and didn't seem like it was a big deal. I had full coverage on the car and my motorcycle so that was the one thing keeping me going through all this.

I contacted my detective the other day to see if he had any info or if I could help him out anymore with anything new he had. All he told me was that he had tried to call the contact number for "James" and that the person that answered didn't know a James! Imagine that! You got to be kidding! I proceeded to tell him that my car did have GPS (not Onstar) and asked him if there was any way they could track the vehicle. His exact words were that that was a good idea and that I SHOULD TRY AND CALL THEM! Guys I wanted to jump through the phone! So I....not Mr police officer...contact Infiniti and ask them if there is any way they can track the vehicle. Nope.

And then the bomb drops on me today. My insurance company calls me up and tells me that they want to get a recorded statement of the situation that occured and that there is a clause they added a year ago that states they do not cover anything that has to do with a sale of a vehicle. For the millionth time my stomach hits the floor and I ask the guy to be straight up and tell me if they are going to cover the car. He says that at this time he cannot tell me that but that they have had 5 similar cases in the past year and all 5 claims have been denied. So here I sit. No car and $29,000 in the whole. All I got right now is a motorcycle and though it's not as cold as it is up north the 3 mile trek to work is not so fun when it's raining.

I don't got a clue in the world what to do. Should I get a lawyer and try to fight with the insurance company? Should I continue to try to pay on the car and see if it turns up. I can't afford another payment for a vehicle on top of the loan I already got so I've come to the conclusion that I am pretty much screwed. File bankruptcy? I got great credit and I've worked hard to get it that way so I hate to just throw in the towel and bow out but I can't keep paying on the car for long if I have to save for another one. The insurance guy is going to call me in a week and give me the verdict but we can all see which way this is going. Some guy is out there rolling around in my ride and I can guarantee the only way it's going to pop up is if the police find it. I even ran the VIN tonight on a website and it didn't even come back as stolen so how hard they are doing there job is up in the air.

If you took the time to read this whole thing whether you can help me or not I appreciate it. I know when it comes down to it that it was my fault for trusting this guy but I can't change all that now. If any of you guys have any advice on which way I should take this thing I would be extremely gratefull. I am not getting any good answers from anyone and figured being on here for around 5 or 6 years and meeting and chatting with everyone here that there are some awesome and extremely intelligent people around that might have a clue where to start. Thanks for your time....Matt
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(1) Insist on filing a police report and reporting the car as stolen.

(2) File formal claim with insurance company

(3) Contact a lawyer to handle dispute with insurance company.

(4) Make sure lawyer has knowledge of "civil theft" statutes.

(5) The car has to be registered somewhere. Certainly, a PI could locate the vehicle as the registration would be a matter of public record.

How did you convey the title if there was still a lien?

sparta49 · May 28, 2010

WJGESQ said: ↑

(1) Insist on filing a police report and reporting the car as stolen.

(2) File formal claim with insurance company

(3) Contact a lawyer to handle dispute with insurance company.

(4) Make sure lawyer has knowledge of "civil theft" statutes.

(5) The car has to be registered somewhere. Certainly, a PI could locate the vehicle as the registration would be a matter of public record.

How did you convey the title if there was still a lien?
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Did you read any of the other posts in this 27 page train wreck ?

Also why do y ou think the car has to be registered somewhere?? If some would be willing to steal acar this way do you really think they would have a second thought about stealing plates for the car ?

DrStranglove · Sep 7, 2017

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zxttfan · Feb 2, 2011

Any chance "James" is from Dallas and likes 348's?

sparta49 · Feb 3, 2011

I was just thinking about this thread

Vantage007 · Feb 4, 2011

Anyone have cliffs notes on this one?

DrStranglove · Feb 4, 2011

R/TEnthusiast said: ↑

Anyone have cliffs notes on this one?
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http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=138857608&postcount=424

Ducman491 · Feb 6, 2011

I had forgotten about this one! WOW I bailed after reading 3 or 4 pages when this first happened but I had a bit of time to kill on SUPER SUNDAY so I read all 28. We really get some whoppers around here.

Matt is still active here I think. WTF happened with this? Did anyone go to jail? Was the car recovered? Did you end up paying it off and now have the title to a car that doesn't exist? Are RA and his wife still married? Does he get to visit her in prison? Does she do Notary work for the Warden like Andy Dufrein did in Shawshank?

So many unanswered questions.

JDZNate · Feb 22, 2011

Damn, I was just thinking about this post the other day, wondering what were the results.

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