355 Engine replacement

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If they are going to sting you nearly $40K for this engine replacement/repairs, then you are better off selling the car 'as is' mate. Thats what I would do and use that $40K you saved towards the purchase of another 355!!

Or, buy that engine for $15K and get an independent to shoe horn it straight in without replacing anything. That will be the cheapest and quicket fix IMO!

Then, you can sell the salvageable parts from your old engine. Any Ferrari engine part is worth money if it still can be used!!!

Best of luck with it mate. You have come to the right place looking for advice. We have some of the best in the bizz here on this forum that are only too happy to help.

 

I agree with this.

 

If I understand you correctly, you were given an estimate and authorized it. Then when it was time to pay and pick-up the car, the shop told you it was an additional $25K (or whatever)? If this is what happened, then I disagree with what the shop did - they cannot simply add the charges and assume that you would have authorized them regardless of the cost. It is my understanding that anything above and beyond what was explained to you, including the estimate, the service facility had to contact you prior to moving forward with that additional service - even if it cost a dime more.

 

Seems a tad high.

Certainly no shop should add on those type of charges, I believe some states would consider this wrong, check with your State board.

last one I did, early 2008 was around $25K, no manifolds, but a full service included with a few other small jobs.

 

Unless the block, heads and crank are completely unusable ..... I would send the motor to enginefxr on here ....... you will end up with a very solid motor ..... rather than an 'unknown' used motor ........

 

typically they trash the front crank journal, rods/pistons, timing gear and block/pan. There are 6 good piston/rods though!!

 

find a 430 engine and you'll spend less then $40K and have one of the fastest 355 out there.
How much do you want for your car as is anyway. I might be interested.

 

you got taken

 

My mechanic completely rebuilt a F355 engine that had been mistreated. It had scuffed the main and rod journals, ruined 6 of 8 cylinders, and taken the lobes of 2 cams. The complete rebuild putting the motor back to zero miles was $50K--from bad engine in car to new engine back in the car running.

 

OH NO!!!

 

$50K!!!!!!!!!!!

Remind me NOT to take my 355 to your mechanic! Lol.

An Aussie Fchatter rebuilt his 355CH engine. There was nothing major wrong with it, just started to show slight leak down due to the bad valve guides, as in most 355 engines.

A really good independent shop performed the work. Engine out/rebuilt/engine in for US $30K.

All valves, pistons, rings and bearings were replaced.

Here are some pics.

http://www.pless.com.au/f355/rebuild/engine/index.htm

 

Try adding 8 cylinder liners, 2 cams, 3 rods, regrinding and nitriding of the crank, align boring the block, to your parts list.

 

Still isn't worth another 20K!

 

Lol.

 

I would suggest posting some engine bay pictures and an explanation of what happened to your 355 in the first place.

That will trigger some questions by various members here which could lead you in a better direction.

 

great idea

 

Check your PM's Scott, I'm in CT also and would be happy to discuss -

 

In reading this here is what looks like happened:

He paid 15K for a used engine, 6K for headers, 6k for belts and gaskets (WTF???), and over 10k in labor.

Looks like the shop charged him labor time to tear down and inspect his original engine, then shifted gears and installed an engine from a wreck.

So 50K for a wrecking yard motor, and new headers is one $hitty deal.

If you feel like it post your repair bill for comments.

To answer your question, getting charged 100 hours labor to R&R and engine is fluked up big time.

 

Add to my post above:

It is obvious they got you on the labor to tear down and inspect your old engine which is now a heap of parts. . I would try to negotiate the labor charge down.

The good and the bad (in California at least).

The Good:
In California you must receive a written estimate upfront.
You must then give a verbal authorization to approve the new estimate.

The Bad:
In California a shop can place a Mechanic's Lien Sale on your car if you do not pick it up.

Again, I would talk to the shop and call them on this. It is BS.

Perhaps you could negotiate the labor down to remove the obnoxious tear down and inspection charge, and in lieu of the tear down charge give them your old engine.

 

There should be a gasket between the new engine and old transmission that will need replacing during the engine swap.

You aren't being treated right, though, even if some/all of the charges are legit. No one should hold your car for 2.5 months, and you don't give away a blown 355 engine. Nor should someone tear down an old engine on the clock if their plan is to do an engine swap.

It's not professional to charge for learning how to work on a Ferrari, either. 80 hours of labor is either an exageration or a learning experience. That's two straight business weeks of doing only your engine...something that Ferrari swaps out after one Challenge race ends and before the next one starts on the following day.

 

Im sorry to hear of this Scott!

I hope you can sort something out with them mate!!

 

Theres an 355 engine/trans package on ebay, Asking way to much but you can always make an offer.